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| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7208 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 9 of 29 26 December 2013 at 2:12am | IP Logged | ||||||||
How did this experiment turn out? I tried something similar with the Spanish Frequency dictionary, but never finished. It's hard to sustain a brute force method like this. Edited by luke on 26 December 2013 at 9:04am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4912 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 10 of 29 26 December 2013 at 7:25pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Ha! I saw this post and thought to myself, "I made a deck like that." and then saw my name! I have continued to build the deck from time to time and it's up to 3562 cards (1781 words, with forward and backward cards). I sort of intended to get up to around 2000 words, or maybe 2500 before stopping making the deck.
I know what you mean by "brute force". It is a lot of time doing the same thing. It takes me anywhere from 30 to 60 minutes to make 100 cards (50 items of vocabulary). For this reason, I have built it in bursts. Still, as I use the deck at least a bit more days than not, it is working well for me. It is a very traditional vocabulary deck, with one side having the French word (with an article for nouns), and the other side the dictionary definition. I have read all of the arguments against this type of deck, but as a small part of my learning, I think it is working very well for me, and has definitely improved my ability to pick up a new book and read it. One more bit of advice I have refused to accept is that I don't allow Anki to get rid of leeches. I figure that if it's a high-frequency word, I really ought to know it even if it kills me. My solution is to take a more relaxed attitude. When I see one of these cards, instead of moaning about it, I say to myself, "Hello old friend!" Another thing I do is change the definition side, because often with leeches the problem is that I simply can't recall the particular English words I got from the frequency dictionary. So usually if a card becomes a leech, I look it up in another dictionary, put in a differently worded definition, and get it in a few more tries. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7208 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 11 of 29 27 December 2013 at 5:11pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Okay, I'm going to give it a try. I started a few days ago with the Rutledge French Frequency dictionary, starting with word 1. My plan is to add 10 cards (20 with backs) on most days. My goal is to spend only about 5 minutes a day with Anki and get to around 2500 cards by the end of 2014. Is this realistic?
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| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4912 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 12 of 29 27 December 2013 at 5:22pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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That is the same dictionary I've been using. Adding 10 words a day will certainly get you to 2500 by the end of the year, but do you mean you will only spend 5 minutes a day learning? Or 5 minutes a day making the cards?
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| daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4524 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic | Message 13 of 29 27 December 2013 at 5:25pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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This might take only 5 minutes the first few weeks, but when the reviews pile up, it
will probably take you 10-15 minutes per day. I need 4-5 minutes for my Finnish frequency deck and I only add 5 new cards per day (and only L2 --> L1). By the way, don't learn L2 to L1 and L1 to L2 at the same time, L1 to L2 will be a lot easier once L2 to L1 is no problem anymore. My suggestion is to generate the reverse card only once your forward card has reached maturity. This should take down the total time a bit because you fail less often. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7208 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 14 of 29 27 December 2013 at 6:35pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
5 minutes a day on Anki. Adding cards and doing them. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4912 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 15 of 29 27 December 2013 at 9:41pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
In that case, I think you are being too ambitious. At first that will be enough, but as others have said, soon the repetitions will be building up. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7208 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 16 of 29 28 December 2013 at 4:27am | IP Logged | ||||||||
I studied 37 cards in 3 minutes today, and this is about day 3, so you're assessment is probably good. The repetitive technology seems solid, so even if one gives up the method after a couple months, it still seems there will be some long term benefit. Hmm, after 500 words, I could drop to adding 5 per day and get to 2000 in a year. The good part for me is that I should be familiar with most of the frequent words already. Anki is just another approach to activating them. We'll have to see how things go. It will become clearer as the path unfolds. How has Anki done you? 1 person has voted this message useful |
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