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doviende Diglot Senior Member Canada languagefixatio Joined 5986 days ago 533 posts - 1245 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Hindi, Swedish, Portuguese
| Message 17 of 21 28 August 2010 at 5:15pm | IP Logged |
More than the rules of Swedish (which I'm somewhat familiar with due to reading your other works), I'm actually more interested in various suggested practice methods, both for an individual teaching herself like your example, and for an instructor guiding some students. Currently, I'm trying to turn my pronunciation-learning hobby into a pronunciation-teaching occupation, so I'm always on the look-out for new ways to help people adjust their pronunciation.
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| okjhum Pentaglot Groupie Sweden olle-kjellin.com Joined 5204 days ago 40 posts - 190 votes Speaks: Swedish*, Japanese, English, German, Russian Studies: Spanish, Polish, Greek
| Message 18 of 21 28 August 2010 at 6:17pm | IP Logged |
Here is one way, as expressed by a person who just heard me at a TESOL convention a couple of years ago. http://www.k-way.home.sonic.net/
Also the proceedings from LP98 (Linguistics and Phonetics Conference, Ohio, 1998)
http://olle-kjellin.com/SpeechDoctor/ProcLP98.html
Most detailed procedures, rationales and scientific references in my book "Uttalet, språket och hjärnan" (Pronunciation, Language and the Brain).
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| Merv Bilingual Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5273 days ago 414 posts - 749 votes Speaks: English*, Serbo-Croatian* Studies: Spanish, French
| Message 19 of 21 28 August 2010 at 9:18pm | IP Logged |
Slovenian, as well as Swedish, Serbo-Croatian, Lithuanian, and Japanese, has pitch accent. Therefore, the concept
in Swedish was probably not as alien to this Slovene woman as it might be to an English speaker.
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| shinkarom Diglot Groupie Ukraine allthetongues.hRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4308 days ago 40 posts - 59 votes Speaks: Ukrainian, Russian*
| Message 20 of 21 24 March 2014 at 1:50pm | IP Logged |
One can only praise her diligency.
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| Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4668 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali
| Message 21 of 21 24 March 2014 at 2:40pm | IP Logged |
The Scanian pitch accent (as well as central West Norwegian/Bergen pitch accent)
is relatively easy for speakers of Southern Slavic languages to imitate,
because A1 is HL, while A2 is LHL, which are like falling and raising pitch accents of Slavic languages,
Stockholm/Stavanger (A1 LH(L), A2 HLHL),
and Oslo/Gothenburg (A1 LH, A2 LHL)
are extremely difficult for us.
To our ears, the Stockholm A2 accent on short vowels does not sound like pitch accent at all,
but like a split word/different syllable stressed: 'kvínnà (one word in Malmö): 'kvìnn.'nnà (two words in Stockholm, like two Mandarin words with the 4th tone).
As for compounds, we hear different phonetic realizations of pitch as different stress:
LÄgenheten in Malmö (stress on LÄ), lägenHETen in Stockholm (stress on HET)
If we applied BCS pitch accent on lägenheten, we would get the 1A type of accent (NE part of South,
the 3rd pattern on the left):
Edited by Medulin on 24 March 2014 at 3:16pm
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