AIRBORNE_DELTA Newbie United Kingdom Joined 4043 days ago 11 posts - 12 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Dutch
| Message 1 of 18 06 November 2013 at 4:42pm | IP Logged |
I am beginning to learn Finnish, but unlike German I am finding it quite difficult. I did 2 years of German at school so when I decided to take it up again I found it easy enough. I used the Michel Thomas method and it helped me to get the basics of the German grammar without having to go through big lists of verb conjunctions etc. but with Finnish I have no background and I seem to be just confusing myself at the minute.
Are there any good courses I could use (Finnish has no Michel Thomas, Rosetta Stone or Pimsleur…)?
Should I start by learning words? or grammar?
Any advice would be appreciated :D
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Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7156 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish
| Message 2 of 18 06 November 2013 at 5:36pm | IP Logged |
See Learning Finnish and Learning Finnish, and... for some ideas before starting.
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Chris13 Groupie FinlandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4051 days ago 53 posts - 64 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Swedish, Finnish
| Message 3 of 18 06 November 2013 at 5:56pm | IP Logged |
You have to be quite vigilant with your learning resources anyway. There really isn't so much available, and I honestly don't think I've come across anything that doesn't have mistakes (sometimes serious) that you'd never know at an early level.
I'd say to learn as many common words as you can, then when you feel like you have an okay word base, dabble a little with basic grammar.
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AIRBORNE_DELTA Newbie United Kingdom Joined 4043 days ago 11 posts - 12 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Dutch
| Message 4 of 18 06 November 2013 at 7:53pm | IP Logged |
Thank you very much :) found a lot of stuff i did not know about!
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AIRBORNE_DELTA Newbie United Kingdom Joined 4043 days ago 11 posts - 12 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Dutch
| Message 5 of 18 06 November 2013 at 7:55pm | IP Logged |
Chris13 wrote:
You have to be quite vigilant with your learning resources anyway. There really isn't so much available, and I honestly don't think I've come across anything that doesn't have mistakes (sometimes serious) that you'd never know at an early level.
I'd say to learn as many common words as you can, then when you feel like you have an okay word base, dabble a little with basic grammar.
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Do you know of any good word lists (like top 1000 words in Finnish etc.) that i could use?
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maucca Diglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4651 days ago 33 posts - 64 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English Studies: French
| Message 6 of 18 06 November 2013 at 8:56pm | IP Logged |
The link to this list of the most common Finnish words was recently posted in another thread on this forum.
Wiktionary is an excellent resource also in that it has complete inflection tables for all the words.
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Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6597 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 7 of 18 06 November 2013 at 10:40pm | IP Logged |
Chris13 wrote:
You have to be quite vigilant with your learning resources anyway. There really isn't so much available, and I honestly don't think I've come across anything that doesn't have mistakes (sometimes serious) that you'd never know at an early level.
I'd say to learn as many common words as you can, then when you feel like you have an okay word base, dabble a little with basic grammar.
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hm I wouldn't say it's that bad, really. the grammar is such a combination of complicated and logical that you really shouldn't "just dabble a little" with it. most coursebooks teach some things that nobody actually says, giving you a way to say them with the grammar you have (olla työssä, autot ovat mustat), but this will be fixed when you get out of the selkokieli/kirjakieli bubble.
Also, try to find some good music in Finnish. Since the pronunciation is quite clear, you'll remember a lot of words and forms. Although you won't automatically know the meaning, it will make it easier to learn them from the coursebook you use.
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Chris13 Groupie FinlandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4051 days ago 53 posts - 64 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Swedish, Finnish
| Message 8 of 18 07 November 2013 at 9:39am | IP Logged |
Serpent: I meant to dabble in the early stages, once you've amassed a little more vocab then you can delve in a little deeper, and continue at your own pace from there.
At the start, for example, you could check very basic grammar rules such as;
Maanantai (Monday) Maanantaina (On Monday) Maanantaisin (Mondays)
Tiistai (Tuesday) Tiistaina (On Tuesday) Tiistaisin (Tuesdays)
Keskiviikko literally "middle of the week" (Wednesday) Keskiviikkona (On Wednesday) etc..
I guess we are all different, but personally if I'd attempted to look at multiple grammar rules from the very beginning I'd probably have had a breakdown.
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