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| William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6272 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes  Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French | Message 17 of 42 10 December 2007 at 3:41am | IP Logged | |||||
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Dungan was mentioned above. It is an aberrant form of North Chinese, spoken on Russian territory by Chinese Muslims. It is fairly close to Mandarin but has lost one or two of the tones.
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| jimbo Tetraglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6294 days ago 469 posts - 642 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin, Korean, French Studies: Japanese, Latin | Message 18 of 42 10 December 2007 at 7:01am | IP Logged | |||||
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There is a funky dictionary that was published in the Qing dynasty that is in Uyghur, Classical Chinese, Mongolian,
Manchurian, and Tibetan. (I think it was those five languages) Does anyone know where to get reprints of this? I'm not sure why but apparently I need one. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Frisco Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 6856 days ago 380 posts - 398 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Italian, Turkish, Mandarin | Message 19 of 42 10 December 2007 at 11:21pm | IP Logged | |||||
Wow. Maybe I'm a complete nerd, but that sounds awesome to me. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| joan.carles Bilingual Pentaglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6333 days ago 332 posts - 342 votes Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan*, French, EnglishC1, EnglishC2, Mandarin Studies: Hungarian, Russian, Georgian | Message 20 of 42 11 December 2007 at 2:05pm | IP Logged | |||||
I don't know if they will be able to find it but at MIPP, which sells Mongolian and Chinese books as well as Russian and other ex-soviet republics' books, you can request a search of free. Good luck! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| kealist Senior Member United States kealist.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6236 days ago 111 posts - 124 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Uyghur, Mandarin, Shanghainese | Message 21 of 42 14 February 2008 at 1:31am | IP Logged | |||||
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Here you go:
Dictionary Only $2470 new Edited by kealist on 14 February 2008 at 1:31am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| freakyqi Newbie United States Joined 6130 days ago 32 posts - 43 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Mandarin | Message 22 of 42 14 February 2008 at 11:50am | IP Logged | |||||
I can second all of that, but more toward the "seeing racism" side. I knew some Uyghurs here in Beijing too. They seemed like good people to me, but whenever I mentioned to a Han Chinese person that I had a Uyghur friend, they looked like they wanted to say "Eww" but refrained. One or two actually told me to be careful because Uyghurs are known to be thieves and cheaters. One Uyhgur girl I knew looked totally European, and everywhere she went in Beijing, Han chinese thought she was a foreigner, therefore wanted to charge her more for things, and said "hello" and tried speaking to her in English rather than chinese. And she didn't even speak English!! Not one bit! She spoke Uyghur, Chinese, and quite a bit of French. Walking around with her was odd, how they thought she was a 'foreigner'. A guy I knew, if he went into a store, the employees might look at him extra, and he had trouble renting an apartment. It reminded me of some racist part of the US where a black person might get "watched" in a store, or in some rural town of white people mysteriously hear "oh sorry we just rented the room last night" when they see his face. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| kealist Senior Member United States kealist.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6236 days ago 111 posts - 124 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Uyghur, Mandarin, Shanghainese | Message 23 of 42 14 February 2008 at 4:07pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Uzbek vs Uyghur
There is a simple comparison, of course not complete. Yes, they are at least very very similar. But vowel harmony rules and I imagine some vocabulary is different. I have never tried speaking with an Uzbek, but the music is very indistinguishable for me. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| ElfoEscuro Diglot Senior Member United States cyworld.com/brahmapu Joined 6289 days ago 408 posts - 423 votes Speaks: Portuguese, English* Studies: Japanese | Message 24 of 42 14 February 2008 at 4:32pm | IP Logged | |||||
Uzbek does not have vowel harmony anymore. Also, Uzbek does not have that vowel reduction that Uyghur has. Another major difference is the writing. Uzbek is officially written with a modified form of the Latin alphabet, although many Uzbekistanis still write with the old Cyrillic alphabet. I believe most Uyghurs use a modified form of the Arabic abjad to write their language. There are also Cyrillic and Latin alphabets for writing Uyghur.
Note that the Uzbek text in that link is not actually written in the Uzbek alphabet. It's written in Uyghur's Latin alphabet. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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