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| DarrenDaka Newbie United Kingdom Joined 4778 days ago 28 posts - 31 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German | Message 1 of 12 14 July 2012 at 1:10am | IP Logged |
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Hi guys it's my first post on this forum. I am just looking for a little help and guidance with my Polish. I have a competent level and have been to Poland. But the
problem I have is I think due to my lack of grammar. All the other aspects of Polish I have perfect.Well as good as you can get as a non-native :). I have a problem with the Polish cases. I used to use Polish every day when talking to friends and even took a qualification in Polish but I have noticed that my grammar is putting me at a major disadvantage when speaking to natives purely because I understand them and my Polish appears to be broken or incorrect due to me misuse of cases. I have all the other aspects of Polish grammar and pronunciation down well. Any help tips/guidance is greatly appreciated. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Zireael Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 4655 days ago 518 posts - 636 votes  Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, Spanish Studies: German, Sign Language, Tok Pisin, Arabic (Yemeni), Old English | Message 2 of 12 14 July 2012 at 7:11pm | IP Logged |
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The thing is to remember the questions the cases answer, eg. nominative kto? co? genitive kogo? czego? dative komu? czemu? etc.
I don't think anyone will fault you for taking your time to remember the correct case. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6601 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 3 of 12 14 July 2012 at 9:45pm | IP Logged |
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it's easy only for native speakers :P
You may want to work on the cases one by one, reading about their functions and how they are related. There must also be some lists of verbs/prepositions used with the various cases... That said, have you done any reading in Polish? Or listening? You'll absorb a lot from input as well. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| DarrenDaka Newbie United Kingdom Joined 4778 days ago 28 posts - 31 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German | Message 4 of 12 16 July 2012 at 1:03am | IP Logged |
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Yes I have a lot of books in Polish and I also watch cartoons and films in Polish. THE
CASES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN HARD FOR ME!!! but really I am looking for a song or mnemonic to remember them because the questions don't seem to work. I mean my friends have also suggested using the ways they learned i.e. kto? co? jest , komu? czemu? przygladam sie etc . THERE MUST BE SOMETHING TO HELP ME LEARN THEM BUT MY POLISH WILL NOT GET ANY BETTER WITHOUT LEARNING THESE CASES. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7160 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 5 of 12 16 July 2012 at 3:21am | IP Logged |
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From the forum's Polish profile, try this link at the University of Michigan for a summary of the cases and how to form them.
I don't know of any songs or mnemonics and to be honest I don't think that they lend themselves to something "cute". When I started learning Polish, I basically picked up the endings by reading (as you're doing) and doing exercises (drills or "fill-in-the-blank" type in addition to more indirect ways as in describing something in writing or speech. These indirect ways forced me to use "correct" grammar in my sentences). At the same time, I learned the cases one at a time and didn't move onto the next chapter/unit until I was able to decline properly about 85% of the time on the first try. It also helped that the chapters/units in the textbook that I used ("Cześć, jak się masz?") introduced about two cases per chapter with plenty of exercises to accompany the relevant explanation so that users can get familiar with using the cases. For free sets of online exercises for Polish cases (with answer keys/auto-correction), try the following: Nouns and pronouns Adjectives and adverbs Polish cases 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| DarrenDaka Newbie United Kingdom Joined 4778 days ago 28 posts - 31 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German | Message 6 of 12 17 July 2012 at 11:41pm | IP Logged |
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See i have oscar swans. Book on grammar but really i need some one to give me a chart which says x is the
nominative ending unless blah blah blah for all the cases 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7160 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 7 of 12 17 July 2012 at 11:47pm | IP Logged |
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Look at this within that link at the University of Michigan that I provided and then you can check out the appropriate details on each case in isolation.
Stick to Oscar Swan's massive reference manual if you want a second opinion or need a detailed explanation of some feature in Polish grammar. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| DarrenDaka Newbie United Kingdom Joined 4778 days ago 28 posts - 31 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German | Message 8 of 12 18 July 2012 at 12:04am | IP Logged |
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Is this how you learned each case or did you use other material also do you know of any good books to learn
all about polish people,culture,history etc? Also how did ulyou start learning Polish and what books do you read I have Harry potter and a few other books are these ok to read in polish? Edited by DarrenDaka on 18 July 2012 at 12:11am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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