Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6442 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 9 of 63 28 February 2008 at 4:03am | IP Logged |
MarcoDiAngelo wrote:
I think it would be great combined with L-R method.
By L-R method, you can reach listening comprehension in very short time. And memorizing favourite passages, poetry, and dialogues may be the perfect way to learn to speak! I will certainly try it. |
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I'll be extremely curious to hear your results.
I've memorized short things (Assimil dialogs, for instance), but nothing substantial. I find myself spontaneously memorizing with L-R, but in a relatively small and scattered way, and primarily as sound; I can't spell them entirely consistently at this point.
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MarcoDiAngelo Tetraglot Senior Member Yugoslavia Joined 6450 days ago 208 posts - 345 votes Speaks: Serbian*, English, Spanish, Russian Studies: Thai, Polish
| Message 10 of 63 28 February 2008 at 4:17am | IP Logged |
Schliemann himself wrote that he had compared the original and the translation in order to pick up all the vocabulary. And he "shadowed" English in the church in order to achieve good pronunciation. An audiobook and a good parallel text make this a hundred times easier.
I will gladly let you know about my results, Volte, but at this point I don't have much time, and certainly the process itself will perhaps take a great amount of time. I would very much like to know how to maintain the knowledge of such memorized poems, books, &c.
Edited by MarcoDiAngelo on 28 February 2008 at 4:17am
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DaraghM Diglot Senior Member Ireland Joined 6154 days ago 1947 posts - 2923 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Russian, Hungarian
| Message 11 of 63 28 February 2008 at 6:57am | IP Logged |
This sounds like a great idea. I'm going start small with Edgar Allen Poe's "The Black Cat", "El Gato Negro", from
http://scratchblog.wordpress.com/audiolibros/
It should be short enough to master, before moving onto something more substantial.
Edited by DaraghM on 28 February 2008 at 6:58am
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JasonChoi Diglot Senior Member Korea, South Joined 6362 days ago 274 posts - 298 votes Speaks: English*, Korean Studies: Mandarin, Cantonese, Latin
| Message 12 of 63 28 February 2008 at 8:07am | IP Logged |
MarcoDiAngelo wrote:
I think it would be great combined with L-R method.
By L-R method, you can reach listening comprehension in very short time. And memorizing favourite passages, poetry, and dialogues may be the perfect way to learn to speak! I will certainly try it. |
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This is precisely what I was thinking as well. It seems to be a good 'balance' between the L-R method (which was a bit dry for me since I felt like I wasn't really learning) and the 10,000 sentences method (which was a bit tedious since it required that I spend a tremendous amount of time creating my own sentences).
So far, I'm really enjoying this approach since the instant feedback tells me what I can or cannot say, and I don't have to go through the trouble of making 10,000 sentences.
Edited by JasonChoi on 28 February 2008 at 10:23am
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Sydney Groupie Yugoslavia Joined 6455 days ago 58 posts - 71 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Serbian
| Message 13 of 63 28 February 2008 at 10:19am | IP Logged |
I'm memorizing a book that has a lot of dialogue-- I can't say that I will be able to recite the book from page one to the last page but so far I've already used two of the phrases in conversation so I'm happy. :)
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leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6553 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog
| Message 14 of 63 28 February 2008 at 11:28am | IP Logged |
Hmm..so we're memorizing books now? How would one memorize a book? I'm seeing there are several people trying this, but would someone care to give a detailed description of how to memorize a book? The most interesting method I know of for doing this is the memory palace.
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kewms Senior Member United States Joined 6190 days ago 160 posts - 159 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese
| Message 15 of 63 28 February 2008 at 11:56am | IP Logged |
leosmith wrote:
Hmm..so we're memorizing books now? How would one memorize a book? I'm seeing there are several people trying this, but would someone care to give a detailed description of how to memorize a book? The most interesting method I know of for doing this is the memory palace. |
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Actors memorize large chunks of material all the time. Asking your favorite search engine about "memorization for actors" will turn up lots of tips.
The thing about memorizing a large written work -- as opposed to a vocabulary list or a collection of isolated facts -- is that all the pieces fit together. One sentences flows into the next in a rhythmical, logical manner.
Katherine
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Asiafeverr Diglot Senior Member Hong Kong Joined 6345 days ago 346 posts - 431 votes 1 sounds Speaks: French*, English Studies: Mandarin, Cantonese, Shanghainese, German
| Message 16 of 63 28 February 2008 at 12:53pm | IP Logged |
Wikihow wrote:
At the World Memory Championships, top competitors memorize the order of 20 shuffled decks of cards in an hour |
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I can do this in 3 minutes o.O
Edit: Nevermind, I thought the article said "a deck of 20 cards", 20 decks is over 1000 cards.
Edited by Asiafeverr on 28 February 2008 at 4:57pm
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