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Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5840 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map
| Message 393 of 868 08 November 2009 at 5:47am | IP Logged |
Iversen wrote:
Schade. Wenn ich Tirana besuchte, habe ich versucht so ein Grammatik für Albanisch zu finden, aber ohne erfolg - ich aber zwar ein Textbuch gekauft, aber das ist nicht, was ich gesucht habe.
Die Wörterbücher von Pons sind generell ausgezeichnet und nicht besonders teur. Ich habe aber nie ihre Grammatikbücher studiert.
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Ich habe auch die Kataloge von "Klett" und "Hueber", aber auch die bieten keine Grammatik für Albanisch an. Es wird kaum Leute in Deutschland geben, die diese Sprache lernen.
Fasulye
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| Amoore Senior Member Denmark Joined 5763 days ago 177 posts - 218 votes Speaks: Danish*
| Message 394 of 868 08 November 2009 at 2:36pm | IP Logged |
Fasulye wrote:
Amoore wrote:
Hi Fasulye.
I was reminded about this website with a while ago while reading your log. It contains
some of Luthers texts.
You will find some of them translated into latin/danish some German/danish and some of
them in all three languages.
Like this one (scroll down a little):
http://www.martinluther.dk/prep.html
I hope you can use it.
http://www.martinluther.dk/
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Hi André,
Religion is not my topic of interest, as I am an atheist. When I read foreign language
texts, they should match my interests, because otherwise reading is no fun. Generally I
have started trying to understand what people in this forum write in Danish - but also
in Swedish and Norwegian. As my Danish vocabulary knowledge grows, I expect my reading
ability to improve fast.
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Religion kan være interessant selv om man er atheist. Det handler bare om perspektivet.
Jeg møder oftest atheister som synes at troende har hul i hovedet og religion er
kedeligt - og desværre ikke omvendt.
Og da der er jo mange, mange, mange flere troende mennesker i verden end atheister er
det jo lidt ærgeligt.
Jeg synes personligt altid at det er spændende at forstå verden fra andre menneskers
synspunkt, og i det hele taget verden omkring mig. Religion handler jo om historie,
kultur, mennesker - morale, kærlighed, krig, osv. og verden er stærkt influeret af
religion, på godt of ondt. Derfor kan det være spændende.
Som skrevet tidligere i tråden vil jeg med glæde hjælpe dig med at finde det materiale
du står og mangler, oversætte tekst, o.lign. hvis du har lyst.
ofte/ofte n
oftest/more often
hul i hovedet/hole in head-the (about someone stupid)
synspunkt/sight-point (point of view)
tro/belief
Osv.: og så videre/und so weiter
influeret/influenced
O.lign.: og lignende/und ähnliche
Edited by Amoore on 08 November 2009 at 3:35pm
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Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5840 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map
| Message 395 of 868 08 November 2009 at 6:16pm | IP Logged |
Anyway, religion doesn't interest me and in this language learning forum the rules don't allow discussions about religion or politics. Let's stay on-topic here in my TAC-log and only discuss languages, please.
Fasulye
Edited by Fasulye on 08 November 2009 at 6:21pm
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| Amoore Senior Member Denmark Joined 5763 days ago 177 posts - 218 votes Speaks: Danish*
| Message 396 of 868 08 November 2009 at 6:37pm | IP Logged |
Fasulye wrote:
Anyway, religion doesn't interest me and in this language learning forum
the rules don't allow discussions about religion or politics. Let's stay on-topic here in
my TAC-log and only discuss languages, please.
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Hmm. I think you are missing the point here.
Good luck with your future studies :)
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Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5840 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map
| Message 397 of 868 08 November 2009 at 6:42pm | IP Logged |
Being a moderator in this forum I can't discuss such topics...
Fasulye
Edited by Fasulye on 08 November 2009 at 6:56pm
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Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5840 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map
| Message 398 of 868 08 November 2009 at 7:30pm | IP Logged |
Sunday, 08 November 2009 = Pazar, 08 kasim 2009
OK, let's get down to languages again: - TURKISH!
Today I started working on Unit 16 of "Einstieg Türkisch" and I want to get this unit finished on Tuesday. Besides this I had a very close look into my new concise Turkish grammar and I got the impression that I have already quite a solid knowlegde of the most essential parts of Turkish grammar. I know that I am weeker in the application of these grammar rules, when I compose Turkish sentences on my own, but my theoretical knowledge of grammar rules is already good. So give me two more days time to study... and as usually you may read my report.
Fasulye
Edited by Fasulye on 09 November 2009 at 8:18pm
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Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5840 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map
| Message 399 of 868 09 November 2009 at 7:29pm | IP Logged |
Monday, 09 November 2009 = Pazartesi, 09 kasım 2009
TURKISH SELF-STUDY: Unit 16 of "Einstieg Türkisch", Week 45
I have accomplished the next unit of my textbook Turkish plus that I have read through my whole new Turkish grammar "Grammatik kurz & bündig" and I must say that I am as well fascinated of the grammar structures of the Turkish language as well as it is presented to the readers of this grammar book. As far as I know, this is the first grammar book in my life, which really fascinates me. I can read through this whole book and I really understand everything and find it easy to memorize as well. This is a phenomenon! This is perfect!
To give an example: This grammar explains a very important aspect of all Turkish verbs, which has never been explained in my textbooks so far. So I didn't know about it. Let me present this topic:
In English and German the verbs have Active Voice and Passive Voice and there are Reflexive verbs, but Turkish verbs have more than that, namely 5 status:
1. Simple verb: görmek = to see
2. Passive verb: görülmek = to be seen
3. Reflexive verb: bulunmak = sich finden
4. Reciproke verb: görüşmek = to see each other
5. Causative verb: gördürmek = to make somebody see
These 5 status are in the infinitive here and they can be conjugated in every tense. And you can also find verbs in one of these status listed in the Turkish dictionary. I have always seen and learned such forms as "bulunmak", but nobody has ever explained me the systematic behind this. So when I read this I asked myself: Why has this never been explained anywhere in my textbooks?
And now a grammar topic of Unit 16: It's called "Einteilungszahlen" = What's this in English? Can you tell me, magister?
je 1 = birer (in Esperanto: po unu)
je 2 = ikişer (in Esperanto: po du)
je 3 = üçer (in Esperanto: po tri)
je 4 = dörder (in Esperanto: po kvar)
je 5 = beşer (in Esperanto: po kvin)
je 6 = altışar (in Esperanto: po ses)
je 7 = yedişer (in Esperanto: po sep)
je 8 = sekizer (in Esperanto: po ok)
je 9 = dokuzar (in Esperanto: po naux)
je 10 = onar (in Esperanto: po dek)
In the "Test 4" Unit which belongs to Unit 16 there are always one or two translations German-Turkish. It's very typical for me that I have poor results in such translations. I don't really care about that because it is not my aim to train translating skills. The only thing I have to learn is to express myslef freely in my target language. Who really wants to aquire Turkish translating skills, should do the ASSIMIL course. "Einstieg Türkisch" has a very different concept from ASSIMIL, which is more customized to my personal taste.
Fasulye
Edited by Fasulye on 09 November 2009 at 8:40pm
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Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5840 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map
| Message 400 of 868 12 November 2009 at 7:01pm | IP Logged |
Thursday, 12 November 2009 = Perşembe, 12 kasım 2009
LEARNING STATISTICS & WORD COUNTS: TURKISH
I restarted learning Turkish from scratch (= level 0) in May 2008. So MAY 2008 - NOV 2009 = 18 months of studies.
When I count "words", I don't differentiate between lexemes and expressions, because I am a context-oriented language learner, so learning only lexemes wouldn't help me.
Adding up all lexemes and expressions I get a sum of ~ 1500 words.
1500 words : 18 months = 83,3 words per month.
For a whole TAC - year this would mean: 83,3... x 12 = 999,9.... ~ 1000 words (= lexemes and expressions) per year!
So my yearly vocabulary learning quantity amounts to 1000 words a year.
I am quite satisfied with this result, 83 new words every month that's for myself a good performance.
Fasulye
Edited by Fasulye on 12 November 2009 at 7:19pm
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