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 Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5840 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes  1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map | Message 545 of 868 17 June 2010 at 10:30am | IP Logged | ||
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These corrections are VERY helpful, Ertugrul, so thanks! I am now quite occupied with my upcoming birthday and watching football, but I will take my time - as always - and study your post in detail and reply to it.
Fasulye Edited by Fasulye on 17 June 2010 at 8:27pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5840 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map | Message 546 of 868 17 June 2010 at 2:12pm | IP Logged | ||
I will incorporate your corrections into my original sentences to make a corrected version which other students of Turkish can use for reference. Fasulye Edited by Fasulye on 17 June 2010 at 2:32pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Ertugrul Diglot Groupie Turkey Joined 5655 days ago 63 posts - 124 votes Speaks: Turkish*, English Studies: Arabic (Written) | Message 547 of 868 19 June 2010 at 8:18am | IP Logged | ||
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Hello,
1st sentence should be "Türkiye'de meşrubat içmek mümkündür." 8th sentence is correct then. And regarding with 10th sentence, yes you are right about English. Sorry, my bad. The sujbect of the sentence needs to fixed yet in Turkish. It should be as "Bu Türk malının tamamı 300 YTL." It is definite noun phrase which means its basic structure is W1+nin W2+i. W1: Bu Türk Malı When constructing note that it takes accusative case suffix. (indefinite noun phrase: (W1 W2+i) These Turkish Goods : Bu Türk Mal+i = Bu Türk Malı W2: tamam It means entire, whole, exact in here So W1+in W+i structure is applied: Bu Türk Malı+in tamam+i After vowel harmony and adding the blending letter "n" its result is: Bu Türk Malının tamamı And the predicate is 300 YTL(dir). However, Turkish currency sign is TL again. YTL was used for transition period. You're welcome. Edited by Ertugrul on 19 June 2010 at 8:21am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5840 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map | Message 548 of 868 20 June 2010 at 11:10am | IP Logged | ||
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Sunday, 20 June 2010
MY BILINGUAL TURKISH DICTONARIES 
Have a look a my collcetion of Turkish bilingual dictionaries! 1. Uitgeverij Etnicom, Hollandaça - Türkçe / Türkçe - Hollandaça (1990) 2. PONS Standardwörterbuch Türkisch - Deutsch / Deutsch - Türkisch (2007) 3. Milet Turkisch - English / English - Turkish (2006) But there's a story behind it: For many years I have been a so called L2 - L3 - learner, that means that I try using bilingual dictionaries with a reference to my L2 - languages Dutch and English. To use such a method a high language level of L2 is necessary, I would say at least advanced level. Therefore up to now I have only chosen Dutch and English as L2 for learning any target language L3. So L3 can be for example Turkish or Danish. But I have done this with other target languages as well, for example with Esperanto where I took official exams of the countries of my L2 languages Dutch and English. This new inspiration for L2 - L3 usage came a yesterday during the celebration of my birthday party when I unpacked the present of my Dutch friend and saw that it was a brandnew Türkçe - Ingilizçe / Ingilizçe - Türkçe dictionary. I was really amazed about it! I have never told him that I was searching for such a dictionary or given him any kind of hint in this direction. So for me this present, which he had orderd from an internet store in the Netherlands, came as a complete surprise! I checked the new dictionary and saw that it's very well readable with big enough letters and the keywords written in blue and it has 70,000 entries, so this is abundant enough to study up to a higher language level of Turkish in the future. I would call such a dictionary my PERFECT birthday present! Fasulye Edited by Fasulye on 21 June 2010 at 8:17am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| josht Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6439 days ago 635 posts - 857 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Spanish, Russian, Dutch | Message 549 of 868 20 June 2010 at 3:48pm | IP Logged | ||
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I always love receiving books (particularly language learning books!) as gifts. I chuckled at the fact that I'm sure you use your dictionaries a lot, but they look practically brand new. I assume you're like me and are very careful with all of your books?
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| Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5840 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map | Message 550 of 868 20 June 2010 at 6:29pm | IP Logged | ||
I have to differenciate in this case: 1. I bought my Turkish-Dutch dictionaries in 1997/1998 and they have been almost unused. In 1998 I had to cut off my language studies of Turkish because I started my professional retraining and I gave my father the serious promise that I would keep off any language learninig for the 2 1/2 years duration of my professional retraining. 2. I bought my Turkish-German dictionary in AUG 2008 and I have used it regularly since then. It does look a bit used but generally it's in very good shape, as I am careful with my material. 3. My Turkish-English dictionary is brandnew! I prefer studying at public places such as in the library or sitting in cafes or bakeries, so I can't take too many dictionaries with me there. This is a complication when doing L2 - L3 learning, because you need more material to carry around. Fasulye Edited by Fasulye on 21 June 2010 at 8:20am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5840 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map | Message 551 of 868 23 June 2010 at 11:32am | IP Logged | ||
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Çarşamba, 23 hazıran 2010
TURKISH VOCABULARY REPETITION, NR. 2 I'm very happy to be able to use my brandnew Turkish - English dictonary for L 2 - L 3 learning now. By the way, I used my English-based and Dutch-based dictionaries quite intensively during my 3 years of language studies at univiersity from 1992-1995. Now I have received the inspiration to get into my L 2 - L3 habits again, which isn't possible for Danish, becaus so fare I have only a German Danish Langenscheidt dictionary. I can order my Dutch-Danish dictionaries not earlier than September, so I will have to wait. Here are my sentences. Please keep in mind that there will be mistakes in them: 18. kelime tekrarlaması = the vocabulary revison: Benim sık sık kelime tekralaması yapmam lazım. 19. memur = the official = der Beamte: Almanya'da memurların işyeri sağlam, çünkü işten çıkaralmazlar. (because they cannot be dismissed) 20. Polonya = Poland: Polonya'nın ve Almanya'nın ortak sınırı var. 21. sıkıcı = boring: Bu forumu kullanma hiç zaman sıkıcı(dır). 22. boyacı = the shoeblack = der Schuhputzjunge: Türk şehirlerde boyacılar var, ama Alman şehirlerde boyacılar yok. 23. şef = the boss, the superior: Fabrikların şefi daha önce yaşlı. 24. geliş = the arrival and gidiş = the departure: İstasyonda trenlerinin gelişi ve gidişi her zaman önemli(dir). 25. piliç = the chicken: Almanya'da kizarlı piliç çok yağlı(dır). 26. kör = blind: Kör bir kadın bu Türkçe kitabini okumammaz. Siz kör değilsinsiz. 27. ucuz = cheap: Türk süpermarketinde meyverler ve sebzeler Alman süpermarkertinden daha ucuz(dur). 28. aynı = same: Aynı Türk sözlügünü kullanmak istiyorum, çünkü çok kaliteli(dir). (Corrections are very welcome!) Fasulye Edited by Fasulye on 23 June 2010 at 11:33am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5840 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map | Message 552 of 868 25 June 2010 at 1:54pm | IP Logged | ||
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Friday, 25 June 2010
MY L2 - L3 LEARNING To intensify my L2 - L3 learning (using two foreign languages at the same time) I have just ordered two Danish - Dutch / Dutch - Danish bilingual dictionaries as well as the Dutch version of my ASSIMIL book "Turks zonder moeite", which I can study in Dutch using my Dutch - Turkish / Turkish - Dutch dictionaries. These will help me to get away a bit from all the German-based language resources, which were essential when working together in my study-group with my studypartner Johannes. Fasulye 1 person has voted this message useful |
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