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 meramarina Diglot Moderator United States Joined 5968 days ago 1341 posts - 2303 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Italian, French Personal Language Map | Message 3849 of 3959 09 April 2015 at 4:52am | IP Logged |
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I am looking forward to your home page. I think it would be a great benefit for language learners and other
curious people to have your ideas and experiences concentrated in an easily accesible location. It certainly seems to become more messy and difficult to find information on this site all the time. So, it's not so easy to answer the question "What Would Iversen Do? And sometimes, one just needs to know! By the way, I look forward to possibly meeting you and others at the Polyglot Gathering very soon! Unless something goes wrong with my health, I'm planning to be there, as surely the stupidest participant. I do, though, feel ready for the challenge. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6704 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 3850 of 3959 09 April 2015 at 10:25am | IP Logged |
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I just noticed that you were referring to the polyglot Gathering, and I'll certainly be there to say hello to you. Apart from that I'm fairly sure I'll participate in the New York conference, and I have even thought of a subject for that event (something about the longterm damage done to linguistics when Chomsky chose a rather rigid constituent structure as the layer 'below' his transformations) - but October is far away and I have still not made a formal application or reserved a hotel room for the occasion.
And the homepage is also lurking in the shadows right now. I have a catalogue called "hjemmeside" on my PC (with suitable backup), and this is actually the main part of the content I have planned - or at least part of it. I don't want to structure it as a blog and even less as an interactive site with a forum, so I have built the whole thing in good old HTML written in Notepad and Notepad+ combined with good oldfashioned jpg and pdf files. It is planned as a stone dead museum with immovable objects gathering dust on shelves, not as a fun fair or theme park or arcade game. The book corresponding to my "Guide to Learning languages" here at HTLAL has been ready for publication since February, and if I had found a place where I could have placed it without further ado back then I might never have thought about a homepage. But the sites I saw would sometimes demand all rights to the thing (Wiki), or I would have to produce references to libraries with a physical edition, academic titles or other things, so I became totally fed up with the whole thing. Since then I have done things that have little to do with languages, but are relevant for me. I have (at long last) scanned my musical compositions from the 80s and 90s, but I can't deliver links recording so basically it is a waste of time - nobody will ever read the scores. I already had photos of my old paintings (including some in stereo), but now I have reorganized the presentations of them and stored the result as pdf's (with the gracious help of Libre Office and its ability to produce such files). I have NOT yet rewritten or translated my travelogues into the relevant local languages, but that task can wait. And the book about language learning may be finished, but the subject is so vast that it might call for a sequel (maybe in a blog-like form). And all those things (plus a busy period at my job) have meant that I have postponed and postponed the grand opening of my homepage. But one day I'll publish the link, and then time will tell how many visitors it'll get - certainly below the 10.000 or so daily visitors who allegedly visit this thread each day. It: Un bel di' vedremo... GR: Επ 'ευκαιρίας: Πέρασα το βράδυ κάνοντας μεταφράσεις σύντομων αποσπασμάτων από ένα δανικό περιοδικό από τη δεκαετία του '90 στον Ελληνικο - το περίφημο περιοδικό "en skør skør verden" ('ένα τρελός τρελός κόσμος'). Είναι γεμάτο με παράξενες απίθανες ιστορίες και ιστορίες τρόμου με αναστημένοι βρυκόλακαδες, λίπες κυρίες που τρώγονται από κανίβαλους και νέες προβλέψεις στο χέρι της μούμιας του Νοστράδαμου. Edited by Iversen on 09 April 2015 at 11:34am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| meramarina Diglot Moderator United States Joined 5968 days ago 1341 posts - 2303 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Italian, French Personal Language Map | Message 3851 of 3959 09 April 2015 at 12:06pm | IP Logged |
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I would be honored to an audience member at your presentation! If you can come to NYC, a visit to the
Museum of Natural History and the Hayden Planetarium is fascinating, and multilngual, too; when I've been out and about in NYC I've actually heard very little English. As for your Chomsky subject, that is something I want to learn more about. I have a basic Intro to Linguistics book I've studied but I seem to be misunderstanding something about sentence analysis. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6704 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 3852 of 3959 09 April 2015 at 5:27pm | IP Logged |
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I'll be speaking about sentence analysis in Berlin
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| Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6704 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 3853 of 3959 10 April 2015 at 1:41pm | IP Logged |
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I saw a discussion about the Serbian windows setup at Radioclare's place, and that inspired me to check out the input mechanism of Google Translate. Normally I use the virtual keyboard thing at Lexilogos for my messages in Cyrillic and Greek (and the more recalcitrant variants of Latin alphabets), but it is cumbersome to use because some signs follow the alphabet, some can be produced with some inbuilt automatisms and for the rest you have to click somewhere to get a certain letter. But maybe Google had something simpler, so now I have checked it (for Serbian). There are no less than three systems: one 'transcriptor' and two keyboards, but I can't see the advantage of switching to a another keyboard setup if that means that the shared signs (like a or e) or parallel signs (like и/i or п/p) end up in totally random places.
input via Danish keyboard qwertyuiopå¨ asdfghjklæø' <zxcvbnm,.- result: љњертзуиопђч асдфгхјкл`ћ- <ѕџцвбнм,.' intended (from US keyboard): љњертзуиопђж асдфгхјклчћ <ѕџцвбнм,.' The funny thing is that the Cyrillic keyboard is supposed to yield slightly different values at those keys which have another letter attached in the Danish keyboard setup - so it seems that it doesn't read the keys directly, but only the resultant letters. Like the "zdravo->здраво" rewriter. The letter ж isn't produced anywhere with a Danish keyboard, but can be picked out by clicking on the screen keyboard image. Besides there are apparently some allowed two-letter combinations, but they are badly documented. Nevertheless the 'rewriter' solution is still the one I would prefer because it doesn't change my basic keyboard layout. Edited by Iversen on 11 April 2015 at 10:10am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6704 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 3854 of 3959 11 April 2015 at 10:48am | IP Logged |
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GE: Ich habe gestern abend eine Reihe von Artikeln über die Paläontologie aus dänischen und deutschen Webseiten gelesen. Es hat alles mit Carnufex carolinensis begonnen (neulich von mir in einem anderen Faden erwähnt), der auf Pangäa vor 231 Millionen Jahren gelebt hat - d.h. vor die Dinosaurier. Das Carnuflex war ein 3 Meter langes Krokodil mit einem so großen Unterschied zwischen Vort- under Hinterbeinen, daß die Paläontologen fast sicher sind, da dieses ungeheuer auf den Hinterbeinen herumgelaufen sei - wie übrigens auch die ersten Dinos, darunter die Vorväter von gigantischen Vierbeiner wie Brontosaurus.
BRONTOSAURUS??? Ja, Brontosaurus. Der ehemalige Spitzenknochenjäger Othniel Marsh hat zuerst Resten von einem immensen Tier gefunden und diesen als Apatosaurus bezeichnet. Zwei Jahren später hat er andere Resten von ähnlichen Tiere gefunden und die Gattung Brontosaurus dafür geschaffen. Dann hat er das Kapitalfehler seines Lebens gemacht! Er hatte keine Köpfe für die zwei neulich gefundene Tiere gefunden, aber für seine Rekonstruktion brauchte er etwas am Ende des langen Halses - und er hatte ganz einfach das Kopf von einem anderen Tier der Gattung Camarasaurus genommen und dieses auf seinem Brontosaurus gesetzt. So ergab es sich, daß die Besucher des von Meramarina erwähnte Museum für Naturkunde in New York jahrelang ein fast vollständiges Skelett dieses beeindruckenden Monsters bewundern konnten - mit einem falschen Kopf. Aber dann hat jemand ein drittes Eksemplar gefunden - dieses Mal mit Kopf. Und nicht nur war dieses Kopf lang und schlank wie ein Diplodocus-Kopf, nicht kurz und hoch wie die Köpfe von Camarasaurus und Brachiosaurus, aber alles in allem schien dieses Fossil so irgendwo in Größe und Form zwischen Apato und Bronto zu stehen, und es wurde in 1993 beschlossen die zwei fortab als eine Gattung zu definieren. Und weil der Name Apatosaurus der ältere war, verschwand der Name 'Brontosaurus' aus allen seriözen wissenschaftlichen Schriften. Nicht aber aus die Populärwissenschaftiche Bücher, und jetzt haben Emanuel Tschopp von der Neuen Universität Lissabon und seine Mitarbeiter wieder die Beine gründlich studiert und ein 300 Seiten langen Bericht darüber geschrieben, wo die Konklusion ist, daß es mehr als genug Unterschiede zwischen die Brontos und die Apatos gibt - beide jetzt besser mit Fossilien dokumentiert als in 1903 - um mit zwei Gattungen zu rechnen. So jetzt ist es nicht mehr ein Anzeichen für fehlende Allgemeinbildung über Brontosaurier zu sprechen. CAT: Mentre escric això, jo estic escoltant les notícies de TVE en espanyol, però de sobte vaig començar a oir frases en català. Per desgràcia, això no succeeix molt sovint en TVE, però cal trobar alguna cosa que escoltar en català molt aviat, antes la reunió a Berlín, on jo li vaig prometre a donar una xerrada en aquest idioma. EN: And now we are discussing the cladistics of the sauropods, the critter standing at its hindlegs in the entrance hall of the American Museum of Natural History in New York is not one of the dinos mentioned above, but a Barosaurus. And I'm still somewhat sceptical about the ability of such a heavy animal to do circus tricks like standing on its hindlegs. The massive tail might be in the way rather than being a help - its normal function was to act as a counterweight to the neck for an essentially quadrupedal animal, not that of a cangaroo tail. By the way, Barosaurus is believed to be a relative of Diplodocus and Brontosaurus, but the head at the exhibited specimen is NOT the original one. No head of a Barosaurus has ever been found. Edited by Iversen on 11 April 2015 at 11:49am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4708 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 3855 of 3959 11 April 2015 at 11:03am | IP Logged |
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Ein gutes Faktum zu wissen - ich dachte mir immer, der Brontosaurus sei ein Teil der
Geschichte, aber mit Taxonomie ist es recht immer schwer zu ahnen, wenn eine Gattung eine Gattung ist und wenn es eigentlich zwei unterschiedliche Tiere gibt. Zumindestens wenn ich jung war, ist es mir so erzählt. Übrigens möchte ich dir zusätzlich noch fragen, ob du einmal in Drumheller gewesen bist? Da gibt es das Royal Tyrrell Museum, was für Paläontologen wirklich das Paradies ist. Natürlich mit viele Fossilien aus dem Kreide, und sehenswert sind auch die Badlands. Wenn ich ein Kind war, kam ich da oft - das liegt nicht so weit von Calgary, mein Standplatz in diesen zeit (90er Jahren). 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6704 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 3856 of 3959 11 April 2015 at 11:21am | IP Logged |
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Nein, ich habe viele paläontologische Museen besucht, aber gerade Drumheller fehlt mir noch.
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