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kraemder
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 Message 265 of 1702
23 March 2012 at 5:06am | IP Logged 
In general I don't eat fish. There's a few exceptions, like tuna fish, or fish n' chips. Understandably (at least for me) I'm particularly wary of non-cooked fish. Anyway, there's this restaurant right next to me called Sushi Yukari. It's actually walking distance, which is pretty rare in Tucson. Anyway, in class today we talked about Japanese restaurants (I think Yukari may have been mentioned but tbh I don't know as I didn't know the full name of this restaurant before walking inside it). I think all the employees are Japanese. I was shocked lol. I've been to a different Japanese restaurant, Sakura, which is a very nice restaurant but except for the owner who isn't there I don't think anyone is Japanese. I think this was the 1st time where I walked into a business and heard real people speaking real Japanese to each other. I was thrilled. I'll be going back. They serve ramen which I've been dying to try since watching Naruto. It was really good (I got 沖縄 or Okinawa soba ramen). Anyway, I'll be going back. I might even try the sushi. It's just so cool that they speak Japanese. An American couple next to me were practicing their Japanese a little with the waitresses too.

Oh and there's a big anime/manga convention in Tucson this weekend - Con-Nichiwa. I'm going to be checking that out too. I have no idea what to expect and I doubt I'm anywhere as geeky as most of the people who will be attending unfortunately =/. Give me a few years though.

Edited by kraemder on 23 March 2012 at 5:09pm

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 Message 266 of 1702
26 March 2012 at 7:16am | IP Logged 
I need to learn the kanji for the vocabulary I know and am learning. Having studied Heisig to death (and I'm going to continue doing that some more) I'm going to add another side to my vocab flashcards basically listing the heisig kanji meanings. I'll see how this goes. Most of the words we use shouldn't need too much in terms of a story to remember them. There'll be some exceptions of course. One kanji doesn't show up in the 1st book of heisig's kanji - 綺 . I found that odd since all the primitives are already there. The other kanji 麗 is in it (but I don't recognize it I think it's at the end). The word is 綺麗 or きれい. I'm thinking it's probably just written in kana usually anyway. How else could such a common word have kanji that's not included in the 1st 2000 odd kanji chosen by Heisig.

I really wish the Japanese had their own words for each kanji. I wonder why they don't.


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 Message 267 of 1702
26 March 2012 at 7:16pm | IP Logged 
I got my listening quiz back. I saw the 30 in red at the top and my heart sank and then I saw that it's out of 36
so an 80. I really thought 30. I was so off balance when taking it. I dorked the 1st question which is
annoying since i knew the answer and still got it wrong thanks to being an idiot. But i'll take the 80.

Unfortunately with class back up and going I'm not finding any time to read potter. It's all about studying the
class material and getting it perfect to get the best grade. I'm getting a little ahead of the schedule though so
maybe later, we'll see. I think I might just surf the internet instead some.
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 Message 268 of 1702
29 March 2012 at 2:50am | IP Logged 
kraemder wrote:
I walked into a business and heard real people speaking real Japanese to each other.

I had a similar experience with Chinese, it's just that I could understand way less than you. -_-"



kraemder wrote:
I really wish the Japanese had their own words for each kanji. I wonder why they don't.

Well, you don't have the word "registrate" even though you have "registration". That's as odd as Japanese not having a kanji alone. And if a kanji is never used alone, it makes complete sense to not have a word for it. I guess 綺麗 is imported from Chinese (qǐlì is the Mandarin pronunciation, which resembles kirei to a certain extent and qǐlì obviously means beautiful).
In other words, imagine őű meaning registration. If ő means registrate and ű means -tion then neither ő nor ű is used separately.
I hope this made some sense.

kraemder wrote:
I think I might just surf the internet instead some.

Are "surf the internet" and "browse the internet" equally good expressions?

Edited by Takato on 29 March 2012 at 2:52am

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 Message 269 of 1702
29 March 2012 at 3:37am | IP Logged 




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I really wish the Japanese had their own words for each kanji. I wonder why they don't.

Well, you don't have the word "registrate" even though you have "registration". That's as odd as Japanese not having a kanji alone. And if a kanji is never used alone, it makes complete sense to not have a word for it. I guess 綺麗 is imported from Chinese (qǐlì is the Mandarin pronunciation, which resembles kirei to a certain extent and qǐlì obviously means beautiful).
In other words, imagine őű meaning registration. If ő means registrate and ű means -tion then neither ő nor ű is used separately.
I hope this made some sense.

I'm sure it makes sense to some people but not to me. For example, how do you spell the kanji of a word to someone verbally if you can't draw it for them? You can't. At least not that i can tell. You'd have to use it in a word or something and I'm sure it's a little pain in the butt. And for memorizing the spelling of words it's a bit of a pain.

But Heisig's RTK sort of solves that. He gives each kanji a name based on one of the meanings. But it would be better if Japanese had an official textbook name for each kanji I think.


kraemder wrote:
I think I might just surf the internet instead some.

Are "surf the internet" and "browse the internet" equally good expressions?[/QUOTE]

Yes they are. I personally always say surf the internet probably because I like the connotations of surfing better but they're equally good expressions to use. Now that you've drawn my attention to it I feel obligated to say browse the internet so I sound smarter lol.
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 Message 270 of 1702
29 March 2012 at 7:09am | IP Logged 
kraemder wrote:
In general I don't eat fish. There's a few exceptions, like tuna fish, or fish n' chips.


You don't need to eat raw fish. Sometimes at these American sushi restaurants of questionable quality I avoid everything raw, just because, err, you know. Who knows. Eat something safe the first few times and if that's good branch out.

Still for getting 'in the spirit' broadening your fish input might be a good idea. Maybe go for the cooked eel or the cooked shrimp just to get going. These will be pretty safe, I think.

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 Message 271 of 1702
29 March 2012 at 8:32am | IP Logged 
kraemder wrote:
For example, how do you spell the kanji of a word to someone verbally
if you can't draw it for them? You can't. At least not that i can tell. You'd have to
use it in a word or something and I'm sure it's a little pain in the butt. And for
memorizing the spelling of words it's a bit of a pain.


People do one of three things: (1) they say a common word that the kanji is used in, for
example "動物の「物」", (2) they describe the kanji using the radical plus the other
elements, for example "「手偏」に「足」", or (3) they draw the kanji on the palm of their
hand with the index finger of the other hand.

Yes, it's probably not very efficient, but it always works eventually.
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 Message 272 of 1702
31 March 2012 at 5:09am | IP Logged 
I got a white board (wahoo!) I love new toys. It's a little one I could take with me to school if I wanted but I
probably won't bother since I don't do much flashcard type stuff and I take my iPad anyway. What I'm doing
now with my vocab for class is using flashcards, testing testing the English (IE the front of the card is English)
and then I write the Japanese kanji. I haven't been doing the okurigana but I probably might as well. I might
not really be able to spell words correctly without practice and the whole point of this is to get extra credit
points on the final (and really impress the sensei heh ;)

The white board cost a whopping 5 bucks. A classmate said she got hers half price for $2 (cool people
always get stuff cheaper... damnit) Anyway it's loads cheaper than an iPad. I'm comparing it to the iPad and
I like writing on the whiteboard more than on the iPad (with stylus) but I like erasing better on the iPad heh.
They're actually both about equally good in all. I'll probably use both for free form writing. There's some apps
that specifically help/test you on writing kanji but I'm not going to use those until summer break.


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