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| yuhakko Tetraglot Senior Member FranceRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4624 days ago 414 posts - 582 votes  Speaks: French*, EnglishB2, EnglishC2, Spanish, Japanese Studies: Korean, Norwegian, Mandarin | Message 225 of 344 26 December 2013 at 11:32pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Gosh, everytime I see you talk about korean, I really think I've got a long way to go
before even ("just") your level! (the "just" is like this because by no means it's already quite the accomplishment!). I'll be looking forward to your full detailed summary! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4860 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 226 of 344 27 December 2013 at 3:25am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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TAC 2013 YEAR-END REVIEW
FAILED:
While I started out with three TAC languages, Chinese never really got going and I dropped out of the Middle-Eastern Team quite early. I only really made any progress with Persian during the latter half of the year, when my boyfriend taught me some new words and expressions. I would say I'm around a low level A1. Persian basically got postponed for a year - I'm determined to make solid progress in 2014. But I have opened a separate log for that. PARTIAL SUCCESS:
Other Improvements Listening: I listened to many podcasts this year which drastically improved my listening skills. I also watched a couple of unsubbed dramas. I was able to pick up some new words this way, but most importantly I can now follow fast speech a lot better than at the beginning of the year. Depending on the topic and speaker, I can sometimes understand almost every word in podcasts, the general trajectory and then some in dramas and also understood most of a TED talk I listened to. In newscasts, I usually understand the topic and a couple of details. The last time I tried natural conversation between native speakers was still very difficult to follow, but I can usually glean at least the topic and the basic direction. Reading: I read seven books throughout the year: one comic, three children's books, two bilingual novellas and a novel. I also started a non-fiction book a couple of days ago. I made noticeable improvements in reading fluency and word recognition and although it's hard to quantify I think I learned between 500-1000 new words through reading. Most of my reading was intensive, but I read Pippi Longstocking and half of the novel extensively. Extensive reading even with gaps in understanding was very beneficial, especially as regards understanding complex grammatical structures. I'm now able to process them a lot faster and need at most one re-reading to get it. The more Korean I learn, the more I become aware of how much I have yet to learn. Although I passed the high intermediate TOPIK, I'm still hesitant to claim a B2 level in any skill. I think my speaking and writing are at a solid B1 level, although I need to be immersed to some degree to really make the most of them. Reading and listening are probably approaching B2, but it might take me another year to truly feel comfortable enough to label them as such. Edited by druckfehler on 27 December 2013 at 3:27am 5 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4860 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 227 of 344 01 January 2014 at 7:39pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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2014년 1월 1일.
이제 새로운 해가 시작된다. 또다시 한국어 공부를 열심히 할 목적이다. 이번 해에는 이 공부기록을 가끔씩 한국말로 쓰기로 한다... 잘 될 건가? 12월에 결정한 대로 여러 가지 팟캐스트 100개의 에피소드를 듣고 Goldlist 50장 쓰고 또 책 10권 읽으려고 한다. 팟캐스트부터 시작할 작정이다. "전진희의 음악일기"와 "장기하의 대단한 라디오" 몇몇의 에피소드를 엠피 쓰리에 올렸다. 이 로그에서 일요일마다 내 공부소식을 기록할 거다.
--------------------- Because I now feel fairly comfortable doing it, this year I will try to sometimes write my updates in Korean. Corrections and Korean comments are very welcome! Of course, English comments are just as welcome, in case you were wondering ;) Edited by druckfehler on 01 January 2014 at 8:59pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5527 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese | Message 228 of 344 01 January 2014 at 9:42pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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In case you aren't already aware of the reason for the 한국말 to 한국어 correction you
received, 한국말 is generally only used to refer to the spoken language. 한국어 refers to the language in general and is also the more formal of the two terms (for those scenarios where both words would work). 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4860 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 229 of 344 01 January 2014 at 9:54pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Thanks! Now that you mention it, it makes sense that 한국말 only refers to speaking. I never thought about it before, I was only aware of the difference in formality.
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| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4860 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 230 of 344 05 January 2014 at 2:31pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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2014년 1월 5일. Week 1.
Goldlists: 0 Podcasts: 0 Books: 0 ----- News Items: 0 (read) 1 (watched) Written: 2 Conversations: 0 Grammar Practice: 0 지금 "본드걸 미미양의 모험"이라는 책을 읽고 있는 중이다. 재미있고 그다지 어렵지도 않다. 읽을수록 새로운 단어들을 점차 알게 된다. 이 소설과 함께 Inside Korea라는 책도 계속해서 읽고 있다. 전혀 다른 내용의 책 두세 권을 동시에 읽는 것은 좋은 공부 방법인 것 같다. I always seem to confuse 주제 with 제목. While I had originally written "다른 제목의 책", I used the suggestion of 내용, because it seems more idiomatic than 주제. -------------------------------------- I started reading a new novel in Korean, which is called "Bond Girl Mimi's Adventure(s)". It's humorous and not all too difficult. I think I can learn some new expressions through extensive reading. Interestingly, I often find that I understand much more when I reread a passage. Already knowing an approximation of its meaning maybe makes it easier to focus on analysing unknown words. I've decided to once again keep track of my study activities in my log, like I did in 2012. The first three categories are my official goals for TAC 2014, the rest are miscellaneous activities which I plan to do to in some capacity throughout the year. Edited by druckfehler on 05 January 2014 at 2:33pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Bakunin Diglot Senior Member Switzerland outerkhmer.blogspot. Joined 5122 days ago 531 posts - 1126 votes Speaks: German*, Thai Studies: Khmer | Message 231 of 344 05 January 2014 at 4:05pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
What are the units you measure progress in? Good luck with Korean this year! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4860 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 232 of 344 05 January 2014 at 5:06pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Thanks for stopping by!
My measuring system is not very sophisticated. Books are measured per title, regardless of the number of pages (I think variety is more important than sheer volume). Podcasts are measured by episodes (also regardless of length). I'm measuring goldlists by the number of first distillations I make, which are my first entries into a book I use for these vocabulary lists. I do the initial list in another booklet, because I do them in a more disorganised fashion. News items are either short reports on a specific topic (of 3-5 minutes each) or articles, counted by number. I'm also counting writing by frequency and not by volume. That's because I want to encourage myself to simply write more often, regardless of length. I probably won't count anything less than 4 or 5 sentences, though it depends on how challenging they are. Conversations are the same - I'm counting frequency, regardless of length. Grammar Practice refers to the number of new grammar patterns I study and do exercises for. It looks like I'll mostly count completed lessons from "Intermediate Korean Grammar in Use". Edited by druckfehler on 08 January 2014 at 11:18pm 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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