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This critique was written by a linguist who pretty thoroughly demolished the myths that are commonly spread about Esperanto. Introduction This page is both a critique of Esperanto and a rebuttal of pro-Esperanto propaganda; it is not an attack on those who use the language, nor an advocacy of any other language as a world auxiliary. There are links to four other critiques in the References, so yet another one may not be necessary; however, during my brief period of interest in auxiliary languages I encountered enough annoying propaganda that I felt the need to write this page in response. To start with, here are rebuttals to some of the myths which Esperanto propagandists like to present as fact. The remainder of this document, using some intelligence and a substantial amount of common sense, goes into considerably more detail. Myth: Esperanto is naturally euphonious and beautiful, a masterpiece of constructed language design. Reality: This is a matter of aesthetics and personal taste, and thus meaningless; for what it's worth, my personal opinion is that Esperanto is straitlaced, rather uninteresting, and actually quite ugly, especially to look at. The very fact that it was intended as an auxiliary language, rather than a work of art, militates strongly against it having more than a very few of the features which make the best constructed languages so fascinating. And as for Esperanto being a conlang masterpiece, there are hundreds more interesting conlangs out there. Myth: Esperanto is very easy to learn, hear, speak and use. Reality: Unless you are familiar with at least two or three European languages, Esperanto will clearly contain many unnecessarily complicated and awkward features. The more European languages you speak, the easier you will find Esperanto; but the less you will then actually need it! In any case, the number of people who have learned Esperanto says nothing about how easy the language is to learn, since the vast majority of these have learned the language through choice and conscious effort. Rather, you need to consult those - especially monoglots from non-European linguistic backgrounds - who have tried but given up; a lot could be learned from their reasons why. The remarks in [RHD], especially those concerning the "eternaj komencantoj", are relevant here. Myth: The grammar and vocabulary of Esperanto are made up of elements common to many widely-spoken European languages. Reality: A barefaced lie; many grammatical rules, and especially items of vocabulary, are derived from idiosyncracies common to at most a very few languages. For example, the plural ending - one of the most important grammatical markers - takes its form not from something internationally recognisable (such as the -s of widespread languages like English, French, Spanish and Portuguese), but the -j from one noun declension of Classical Greek. Myth: Esperanto can reproduce the idioms of any other language exactly and without ambiguity. Reality: No constructed language could ever do this, unless it was very complicated. Esperanto, in fact, ignores many subtleties of expression found in the natural languages it purports to be able to replace. Myth: Esperanto is a consistently logical language, with a clearly-defined grammar free from nonobvious idioms, and thus allows you to express yourself clearly and unambiguously. Reality: As you will discover later on in this webpage, Esperanto grammar contains many grammatical usages which are nonobvious, unstated, inconsistent or illogical. These provide plenty of opportunities for ambiguity or unnecesarily fine subtleties of meaning, and there are aspects of the grammar which Esperantists disagree over. Myth: Esperanto is internationally neutral, and is the best (some say the only) candidate for an eventual world-wide auxiliary language. Reality: Esperanto is overwhelmingly European in design, content and aspiration, and has nothing in common with most non-European languages - such as Arabic and Swahili, two other languages which are widely used as linguae francae in other parts of the world. It is thus woefully deficient for world-wide auxiliary use - a role which English, for all its faults, has been fulfilling perfectly well for decades. Origin and development Some history, which provides some explanation for what followed. How it happened [DH] has a good account of the history of the more successful auxlangs. For now, I'll mention that Esperanto first appeared in 1887 as "Lingvo Internacia de la Doktoro Esperanto", created by Dr. Ludwig Lazarus Zamenhof, an oculist who lived in what at the time was Tsarist Russian Poland. The pseudonym Esperanto caught on and has been used as the name of the language ever since. [I'll be fair here: for all its failings, Esperanto does at least have a better name than many of its competitors. But a good name does not by itself a good language make.] Esperanto was developed in response to Zamenhof's unpleasant experiences of life, where there was much hatred between Russians, Germans, Poles and Jews. He believed that the hatred existed because the various peoples didn't speak the same languages and couldn't understand each other; he created Esperanto as part of a wider plan to overcome the linguistic barriers and improve cultural understanding, thus reducing or eliminate the potential for conflict. While his aims were, and still are, laudable, his diagnosis was wrong; language is at most a symptom of cultural antagonism, rather than the actual cause, which is more likely to be a complex mixture of social, racial, religious and historical factors. It is highly doubtful that Esperanto would have prevented the American or Balkan civil wars, or the conflict in Northern Ireland, for example. What is it for, anyway? Some sources, including [TYE 1], claim that Esperanto is "in no way opposed to the national languages" and is intended for use alongside them. But others think otherwise and insist that Esperanto should be a universal second language, with national languages used solely within the countries in which they are spoken; once you've learnt Esperanto, you should never need (or even want!) to learn another language ever again. One correspondent even expressed the opinion that, because we have Esperanto, we don't need specialist language schools any more. Occasionally, one encounters claims that, because Esperanto was originally motivated by peaceful intentions, using it will automatically make one dedicated to bringing about world peace. Similar claims are made all the time about religions, and there's an amusing counterexample: [WIRED] mentions that the US army used to use Esperanto as the language of enemy forces in mock battles. Language or minority religion? Here's a somewhat subjective, but nonetheless provocative, viewpoint. A correspondent with inside information made the very interesting remark that part of the attraction of Esperanto is the feeling of belonging to a minority religion - or, if you prefer, an organisation which thinks it has the answer to everything. Some Esperantists indeed promote the language with an aggressive quasi-religious zeal, implying that some sort of linguistic revolution is just about to happen and you are morally obliged to take part. Such an attitude is, of course, more likely to put people off than anything else. On this subject, a correspondent who wishes to remain nameless tells me that "Esperanto's popularity in non-European areas almost always has to do with various religions and cults that advocate some kind of globalism. For example, Spiritualists in Brazil, Baha'i in Iran and elsewhere, and Oomoto in Japan. There's also groups like the Sennacieca Asocio Tutmonda (SAT, "World Non-Nationalists Federation"), who see Esperanto as a tool to join the world's proletariat and incite socialist revolution.". The quasi-religious mindset is well exemplified by [PR], a text which has been described as "reeking of L. Ron Zamenhof". How many speakers? The back cover of [TYE] claims "eight million Esperantists", which is surely an exaggeration; the real figure is impossible to determine with any accuracy, but is generally believed to be between 50 thousand and one million. Most of these are in Eastern Europe, where the language's origins ultimately lie, and Japan and China, where its principal attraction seems to be that it is not English. Indeed, aside from on the Internet, I personally have yet to encounter a single speaker of it; and it's a safe bet that in no country do as many as one percent of the population actually use it on a regular basis. Scotland, for example, has merely a handful of Esperanto speakers, the majority of whom are over fifty years old. The language has thus yet to succeed in its aim to be accepted as a global auxiliary, and I doubt it ever will; the vast majority of the world's population regards it with overwhelming indifference. [Aside: Is there something special about eight million? This is the same number by a certain other .] Why Esperanto needs reforming Zamenhof wisely never claimed that Esperanto was perfect, and he was initially keen to receive criticism and suggestions for improvements. Unfortunately, few people bothered to begin with, and he later declared that no changes could be made to the language; many Esperantists consequently like to claim that this proves that Esperanto was (and still is) perfect and has never needed changes of any sort at all. Ever since then, the desire to reform Esperanto has often been regarded as some sort of heresy, and any attempt to fix even the more obviously broken parts is doomed to failure. Yet the language has been criticised ever since it first appeared. Many of its faults are clearly due to its method of creation and the prevailing attitudes of the time, in particular the late nineteenth-century "mechanistic" belief that all human language could be fitted into a fully logical and rational framework - "a sort of voiced Dewey Decimal System", as Mark Rosenfelder succinctly puts it in his . The grammars of Classical Latin or Ancient Greek have often mistakenly been upheld as models of logic and rationality, and they clearly influenced much of the design of Esperanto, such as the unnecessarily large number of word-classes (Arabic, by contrast, has three). This rather silly attitude is explicitly referenced in some early editions of Teach Yourself Latin; here's a of it. Moreover, because Zamenhof was a polyglot and not a linguist, Esperanto is not the elegantly designed lingua franca its supporters would have you believe; instead, as the vocabulary in particular bears out, it's a composite of several European languages clumsily mixed together with some of Zamenhof's own fetishes, but with little focus or guiding principles. In parts, such as the ridiculous spelling system, it's radical where it should be conservative; in others, such as the overcomplicated grammar, it rather feebly compromises when it should be bold and radical. Some of Zamenhof's ideas were good ones to begin with, but one result of his lack of proper linguistic knowledge is that - frustratingly - all of them are compromised or botched in ways which would have been so easy to put right, without exception. It's only fair to award him one or two points for trying, but he should also lose them for making so many silly mistakes in the process. Undoubtedly, a properly usable international auxiliary language, designed with modern-day linguistic knowledge in mind, would be totally different from Esperanto - assuming one is actually possible, of course. Phonology (sound-system) and orthography (spelling) Despite all the claims of "natural euphony" or words to that effect, what Zamenhof did with Esperanto displays complete ignorance of any considerations of euphony, by any standards except perhaps his own. A book I recently encountered, called something like "Get By in Esperanto", remarks that Esperanto sounds terrible if pronounced badly; surely a naturally euphonious language, if such a thing can exist, would not have this problem? None of this stops [TYE 3] from presenting a highly questionable argument that, because Esperanto is supposed to sound like Italian, it must be "one of the most beautiful languages on Earth". Any such resemblance, if not imaginary, depends almost entirely on the preference of both languages for words ending in vowels - a preference shared with Finnish, Swahili, Maori, Japanese and Chinese, to name but five. The phoneme inventory Common sense dictates that a properly euphonious world IAL should be easy to speak and to understand when heard; it should therefore have a small inventory of phonemes (contrastive sound-units) and definite rules restricting the combinations in which they may occur. The extreme is displayed by Polynesian languages like Hawaiian, Rotokas and Maori; all of these have about a dozen phonemes each and avoid consonant clusters altogether. Zamenhof, however, is guilty of a lazy (and, in what is supposed to be an international langugage, unforgivable) error typical of beginning conlangers (see, for example, see my own first conlang): Esperanto's phoneme inventory, as [JBR] shows, merely consists of the 34 phonemes of his native Polish dialect which are apparent from the spelling. This overlarge sound-system compromises the otherwise sensible decision to represent each phoneme consistently by its own letter; Zamenhof had to create the six extra accented letters shown below. From left to right, they are pronounced like the final consonants in "itch", "edge", "loch", "rouge", "ash" and the W in "wet". yuck Laying aside my impression that these extra letters are just plain ugly, you have to wonder. Surely Zamenhof would have wanted his language to be as easy to disseminate as possible; but how many printing-presses and keyboards actually feature these letters normally, or did so in 1887? (Come to that, when did you last see an Esperanto typewriter?) And from a beginner's point of view, these "new letters which look like the old ones" can only be confusing, slowing people down while reading and writing. Amusingly, some Esperanto journals still manage to forget the accents, or put them in the worng places [RHD]. And it's interesting that part of the artwork on Radiohead's album OK Computer misses the accent off the final J on a sign saying DANGHERA NAJBAR-AJO ("dangerous neighbourhood")! The best I can do to represent these extra letters here in HTML, without spattering bitmaps everywhere as some people recommend, is to use Zamenhof's concession that the accents can be represented by a following H, with W in place of the accented U. Some people prefer to indicate all accents with following X's, which is very nearly the least attractive way around a problem which should never have been there in the first place; to prove my point I need only borrow JBR's example, cxirkauxajxojn (in my reformed spelling, tcirkawajoyn). This is a serious handicap; however difficult English may be to spell, it can at least be typed on any unaltered Roman-alphabet keyboard. Vowels The vowels of Esperanto - the /i e a o u/ common to many languages - are the only part of the sound-system which can be described as sensibly designed; unfortunately, even this good point is compromised by an over-reliance on vowel groups and diphthongs. My confidence in [TYE] is not increased by its claim on the first page that "most national languages have twenty or more" vowel sounds - in fact, the global average is somewhere between 5 and 7. Even by the criteria of Esperanto, English has at most fourteen, and some languages (Arabic and Quechua come to mind) have as few as three. Consonants As is typical of much of Esperanto, the consonant system is clearly a compromise between various European languages rather than something sensible, and the spelling system similarly tries to reconcile several European orthographic traditions. Here's the consonant system laid out in the traditional manner, using the Esperanto spellings: Labial Dental Palatal Velar Glottal Stops p b t d ; k g Affricates &n bsp; c (1) ch gh Fricatives f v s z sh jh hh (2) h Nasals m ; n Liquids ; l r Glides w ; ; j A little thought shows that neither system is satisfactory; the table has some surprising gaps (i.e. irregularities), a clear sign that Zamenhof didn't really have much idea of what he was doing. (1) is DZ, a sound which most Slavic orthographies (including Polish) treat as a compound consonant (compare the Esperanto edzi "to marry"), while (2) is the sound of G in Dutch "negen". And if the spelling system was really consistent and logical, JH would be ZH, as in Czech, Serbo-Croat and most Roman transliterations of Russian; CH would be KH, otherwise GH looks distinctly out of place; and HH would be something else - or better, not there at all. Indeed, the presence of both H and HH is one of the worst features of the consonant system; almost all of the Slavic languages treat them as the same consonant, and only Spanish of the Romance languages has either. There's no reason why an IAL should need these sounds; [TYE 6] even has the cheek to describe HH as very rare and not worth troubling about. One sound, two spellings Esperanto's orthography is supposed to follow the sensible "phonemic" principle of "one letter, one sound", but what this amounts to in practice is that the internationally recognisable Latinate letters X Q are replaced by the Slavic compound spellings KS/KZ/GZ and KV. Weirdly, the principle is ignored by the single letters C CH GH, which represent compound sounds better represented by TS TSH DJH; Zamenhof's Slavic bias is the obvious explanation. Thus, and contrary to [TYE 6] ("as a word is spelt, so it is pronounced, and vice versa"), some words with the same pronunciations can be spelt in two different ways; for example: archata "bowed"&nbs p; &nbs p; artshata "a ppreciative of art" placpaco "place of peace" platspaco &nb sp; "flat space" sorchtrumpeto "magic trumpet" sortshtrumpeto "sock of destiny" A possible reform My first reaction to all this was, more or less, "yeuch! how horrible!". It didn't take me long to improve the spelling-system to get rid of all the accented letters, independently of the very similar approach in [JBR], incidentally; this reform proceeds as follows: There really isn't much point in an accent which is used on only one letter; why not spell the accented U (which comes from Belorussian) as W? There's no need to write the affricates as single letters. Replace C by TS; you can now spell SH as C and CH as TC. There's no harm in replacing J with the otherwise unused Y. This allows JH to lose its accent, and GH can now be more sanely spelt DJ. Assuming that HH is really necessary, the unused X (from the Cyrillic alphabet) can be used for it. This orthography has the following advantages over Zamenhof's: It's slightly less ugly! Even though very few languages use C for SH, it's no more confusing! There are no new letters to worry about! All compound sounds are represented by compound letters! Regardless of how it's spelt, however, Esperanto's sound-system still leaves a great deal to be desired; it's no coincidence that most of the awkward sounds in Esperanto are those represented by the accented letters, which represent distinctions of sound unknown to many non-Slavic languages. And have a look at this in various languages: which are the least common letters in Esperanto? The accented letters, C Z and H - the very letters which represent the most contentious sounds! How the extra letters mess up the vocabulary I've read more than once that the extra (accented) consonants are a Good Idea because they make it easier to compromise between different forms of certain words in different languages; thus, because "garden" is jardin in French and giardino in Italian, the Esperanto is ghardeno. But why not just make it gardeno (or the German equivalent, garteno) and do away with the GH altogether? Similarly, "stone" is shtono, a strange blend of German and English, whereas stono or steno would get rid of the accent. Another supposed advantage of the accented consonants is that they allow some roots to be changed to avoid homonymic clashes with others; thus "post/mail" is poshto to differ from post "after". This advantage is negated by Esperanto's ability to create homonyms in other ways (see Appendix 2); and in this case, there are better words for "after" if you follow the principles of vocabulary-building like you're supposed to - what's wrong with malantaw, the opposite of antaw "before"? Sounds in combination Unlike proper languages, Esperanto has no explicit rules specifying which sounds may actually appear in combinations; appendix 1 uncovers what seem to be implicit rules. Nor are there any rules which simplify awkward groups of sounds to ease pronunciation; such rules aren't allowed because of the necessity to retain complete regularity of spelling. Esperanto consequently suffers from problems of pronunciation which no naturally euphonious language would permit: Consonant clusters often approach unreasonable lengths: dekstra "right", transskribi "to transcribe", eksscio "former knowledge" and ekscio "flash of insight", postscio "hindsight" (with medial STSTS!), altkreska "tall", pendshnuro "hanging-rope". [TYE 136]'s failure to define "easy to pronounce" doesn't excuse these; not for nothing does "extra" appear in Japanese as ekisotura. You can even make up nearly unpronounceable words like lingvgvido, "language-guide"; has plenty more such, like malnovajhscienco, traktdistingo, ekzercmuziko and vibrnombro. Several initial clusters are also problematic: scii "to know" (which [TYE 45] admits is "difficult to pronounce"), knabo "boy", skvamo "scale". Groups such as those in ekzisti "to exist", sveni "to faint", akvo "water" are awkward for people used to assimilating for voice, such as (oddly) Slavs. kv is obviously different from gv (e.g. in gvidi "to guide"), and kz isn't the same as ks in aksiomo, but why should we have to worry? It's virtually impossible to pronounce the N's in banko "bank", panjo "Mummy" and senbarba "beardless" in the same way, especially if you're talking quickly; so much for "one letter, one sound". Tricky vowel clusters are not excluded, either: unuaeco "priority", soifo "thirst"; while premii "to reward" differs from premi "to press", and mato "mat" isn't the same as maato "mate (on board ship)". Hungarian, Finnish, Turkish and Arabic are among the many languages which don't allow any more than one consonant at the start of a syllable, while Hawaiian and Swahili - to name but two - don't permit any consonants at the end of a syllable. Even Italian, which is more lenient, is still very careful about which consonant clusters it allows. Esperanto, by contrast, allows up to three consonants at the beginnings of syllables and up to two at the ends, with no sign of any restrictions; think of the problems which monoglot speakers of one of the above languages would have with the five-consonant clusters in words like randstreki or transskribi. So much for not placing any particular linguistic group at a disadvantage. About 75 uninflected words end haphazardly in consonants (detailed at the end of appendix 1); this is a small enough number to suggest that the system could very easily have been made totally consistent. The strange case of J, W, and the diphthongs which aren't Diphthongs are groups of two or more vowels pronounced in one syllable, as in British English "I now toy". Authorities disagree about whether Esperanto has them; my copy of Millidge's dictionary (in the definition of diftongo, no less), says no, whereas [TYE 8] says yes. This is because Zamenhof stated ([DYER], "General Esperanto phonetics") that the letters J and W are always consonants, whether before or after vowels, whereas vowels in groups are always pronounced separately. J and W thus contrast with I and U next to vowels, an unnecessary and annoying complication in the pronunciation of the language. Consider the following pairs of words, in which the first has two separate vowels and the second contains what is, to all intents and purposes, a diphthong: naiva "naive", najlo "nail" reiri "to return", mejlo "mile" soifo "thirst", sojlo "threshold", kuiri "to cook", tiuj "those", praulo "ancestor", frawlo "unmarried young man" reuzi "to reuse", fewdi "to feud" iu "someone", ju (a particle) David Peterson pointed out that the position of the stress can distinguish these, but adding suffixes moves the stress and makes the distinction much more difficult. It is characteristically sloppy of Zamenhof's design that such contrasts exist, but are rare enough that they could have been got rid of altogether with little effort. Note the comment on the same page of [DYER] that: "It was noted that out of 22 successive numbers of the British Esperantisto, six contained articles on the pronunciation of the aj, oj, uj. This would not have happened if the pronunciation were as easy for the English as claimed." Few people are likely to perceive any difference between pairs of words such as rejri and reiri, or to be able to pronounce frawlo, mejlo and so on according to Zamenhof's instructions without using diphthongs. Even worse, try pronouncing ia and ijo differently! Grammar The standard propaganda line, reproduced faithfully in [TYE 1], is that "... instead of the usual maze of rules [of grammar and syntax] ... we have only sixteen short rules, which may be written comfortably on one sheet of notepaper". Nobody has ever explained how a language with that little structure could be anything remotely resembling usable; indeed, the other 185 pages of TYE by their very existence clearly demonstrate that there's a great deal more. [Update: The proof of the pudding again! I'm informed that the plena analiza gramatiko de esperanto is 600 pages long - that's about the same size as Thurneysen's Grammar of Old Irish, a classic work on a notoriously complicated language. Apparently it even has an apology, in its foreword, for its length; even my Latin grammar is only 450 pages long. So much for "one sheet of notepaper"!] The sixteen rules... The 16 rules are shown below. Typically, they only tell you how to say things without explaining what it is you're actually saying, nor what all the grammatical terms mean, nor indeed why you need to say things this way at all. As for the supposed "genius" of their alleged simplicity, any competent conlang creator could easily improve them, and indeed many already have. The only article is the definite, la, which is invariable. Nouns end in -o, plural -oj, in the nominative case. The accusative case is formed by adding -n to the nominative. Other cases are expressed by prepositions. Adjectives end in -a, and agree with the noun in case and number. The comparitive is formed with pli (adjective) ol, the superlative with plej (adjective). The numbers from one to ten are unu, du, tri, kvar, kvin, ses, sep, ok, naw, dek, and are invariable. Higher numbers are formed along the pattern of dudek unu for 21. The personal pronouns are mi, vi, li/shi/ghi; ni, vi, ili; oni; si for "I, you, he/she/it; we, you, they; one; -self". The possessives are formed by adding -a. The indicative verbal endings are -as -is -os for present, past and future tenses. There are corresponding active participle endings -ant- -int- -ont-, passive participle endings -at- -it- -ot-, the subjunctive ending -us, imperative ending -u and infinitive ending -i. Adverbs end in -e and compare in the same way as adjectives. All prepositions govern the nominative case. All words are pronounced exactly as spelt; there are no silent letters. The stress accent is always on the penultimate syllable. Compound words are formed by simply joining the root words; the chief word stands at the end. If a negative word is present in a clause, ne "not" is left out. Motion towards is indicated by the accusative case. Every preposition has a clear and precise meaning. Je is an indefinite preposition which may be used when no other preposition would express the meaning adequately. Instead of je the accusative case may be used. Foreign words are re-spelled in Esperanto, but do not alter their pronunciation. It is preferable, however, to build up the word from Esperanto's own resources. The final letter of nouns and the article may be elided for reasons of euphony. ... and what they don't tell you. Much of the grammar may seem to be a welcome simplification of the sophisticated grammars of Classical Latin and Ancient Greek, or even of most modern-day European languages, and ignorance of non-European languages other than these is doubtless why much propaganda claims that the grammar is the simplest achievable. However, considerable further simplification is possible, especially when it is borne in mind that many non-European languages indeed have a simpler structure than Esperanto (see [RHD] for a good quote). Here's a short list (it could easily be twice as long) of some things Zamenhof either didn't know or tacitly ignored. Articles are actually pretty rare in the world's languages; to name but a few, Finnish, Swahili, Japanese, Chinese, and most Slavic languages all do without. Millidge's dictionary claims that "the use of the article is the same as in the other languages", which is complete nonsense since the uses of articles differ from language to language. How many languages say the equivalent of la kvar "the four" when telling the time? What are "the other cases" referred to in rule 2, how are they used, and why are they important enough to deserve a mention? The usual answers ("the genitive is expressed with de", etc.) betray what seems to have been a nineteenth-century assumption that classical grammar is a constant of nature, rather than a fluid and more or less accidental convention; grammatical case is no more necessary than grammatical gender. The kazo akuzativo is examined in detail later on; and surely there are better plural endings than the unsightly and awkward -j? (See the introduction for where this comes from). No less an authority than Zamenhof himself is on record as conceding that agreement between the adjective and noun is unnecessary ("superfluous ballast", in his own words in 1894), and indeed there's no good reason why you should have to say grandaj hundoj "big dogs", la hundoj estas grandaj "the dogs are big", and mi vidas la grandajn hundojn "I see the big dogs". Note the oddity that the word for "one" has two syllables while the rest have just one; and which part of speech do numbers belong to, exactly? Why is the pronoun system nothing more than a copy of the English one, when something else would surely have been more useful? Why, for example, is there no pronoun meaning "he or she", and why is gender only differentiated in the third person singular? (David Peterson refined my original point.) The verbal system may look straightforward, but the grammar doesn't mention that you can form no less than 36 compound tenses with the various tenses of esti "to be" and the participles. This is far too many, and many of them are likely to confuse speakers of (for example) many Asian languages, which manage well enough with something much simpler. And if subjunctives, future tenses and participles are really necessary, why are there no "subjunctive participles" like vidunta? And is it a subjunctive mood, a conditional tense, or something else? Dutch and German get along fine without worrying about the distinction between adjectives and adverbs: what else could "love me slow and tender" possibly mean? Most prepositions can actually govern the accusative case, too; see rule 13. Esperanto is burdened with far too many prepositions, many of which also do the work of conjunctions and adverbs, and I've never seen a definitive list of them all. I've dealt with this rule in depth above; it has nothing to do with grammar or syntax! This rule, which is curiously the same as in Polish, has nothing to do with grammar or syntax either. The rigidity of the stress causes some distortions: why should words like nacio "nation" stress on the I, instead of on the first A as in every other language which contains the word? And do long words have any other secondary stresses? Another rule of grammar which has nothing to do with grammar! The problems of compounding are dealt with in the Vocabulary section. This rule is pointless and makes no practical difference to the language: multiple negatives are common in many languages, for example "I don't know nothing" in colloquial English. This rule would be unnecessary if the uses of prepositions had been better thought through; see the section on the accusative case. Counterexample: [TYE 176] provides six meanings for de, and helpfully points out that la amo de Dio "the love of God" is ambiguous: is it "God's love" or "some entity's love of God"? Note too malamikoj de la urbo: is this "enemies of the city" or "enemies from the city"? Yet another rule which has nothing to do with grammar or syntax, and it doesn't explain what to do with foreign words which have sounds not resembling any used in Esperanto. Some of Zamenhof's less fathomable creations, e.g. ghis "towards" from French jusque, suggest that you either guess or change them at random - which rather defeats the whole point of Esperanto being an "internationally recognisable" language. Rule 16 is too trivial to deserve further comment. All this suggests that the language could make do with just five rules of grammar, namely numbers 2 through 6, with further simplification: do you really need all those confusingly similar verbal tense forms, when temporal adverbs would do just as well? (Cf Welsh rydw i'n wedi siarad "I am after talking".) More general comments Esperanto propaganda and teaching guides place great importance on the principle of marking a word's part of speech by its ending, even though it isn't followed consistently; for example, numbers and prepositions have no consistent endings, while pronouns take the same terminations as verb infinitives, and the correlatives have a system all of their own. The principle, despite its appearances of logic and rigour, is in any case of debatable merit, since numerous otherwise internationally-recognisable words have to be mutilated to make them fit into the language, with unpleasant results. Proper names come off worst; Edimburgo is just about acceptable, but Mario (yuck) for "Mary" is really not on; and nobody would realistically want to refer to the star Alpha Lyrae as Vego, when it's always been called Vega! Even a name like Asia - recognised the world over - has to be mutilated to Azio. Moreover, Zamenhof was unaware of one of the principal features of all human language: redundancy. Esperanto is sometimes lauded for its succinctness, whereby it can express things more economically than most other languages; however, this in practice equates to a greater density of information, with a correspondingly greater likelihood of misunderstanding as a result of mistakes - especially since much of the grammatical information is carried in the unstressed final syllables which mark the parts of speech. The best examples of this are the pronouns and the very similar verb tense endings, which in a properly designed language would be easier to tell apart. In any case, the claims of succinctness work both ways: la hundo de la viro takes five words and seven syllables to say what Gaelic and English say in three of each: cщ an fir, "the man's dog". The accusative case The accusative case is without doubt one of Esperanto's least necessary features, and thus one of the most heavily criticised. It seems to exist principally as a concession to classical grammar (and thus to boost Zamenhof's credibility with nineteenth-century academics?), but the language would be far better off without it. It's supposed to free up word-order, which according to apologists is important for poetry and literature; but surely basic ease of communication, without having to worry about the finer points of grammar, matters more? Accusative cases have disappeared from many languages in the past; even in German, from which Zamenhof took it, it's used only on masculine singular nouns. And neither Chinese poets nor Shakespeare had any problems with free word-order, despite not having access to accusatives. All would be well if, as in Ido, the accusative case was only obligatory when resolving ambiguities; surely Esperantists don't get confused with sentences like la pomo mi manghas "I eat the apple"? Unfortunately, it's also used in several nonobvious and idiomatic - i.e. unpredictable - ways; [TYE 66] claims that it can be used in place of any preposition, a rule which is asking for trouble even if you don't take it to mean that it effectively renders all prepositions equal in meaning. Thus you get strange constructions like du futojn alta "two feet high" and jhawdon la 1an de decembro "Thursday 1 December", all of which could be more clearly expressed differently. You can even add the suffix to adverbs, a rule which doesn't appear in the grammar (thus alten "upwards"); yet many words, including the article, numbers and some correlatives, don't or can't take it at all. According to one of my correspondents, who seemed very sure of the point, the accusative case can only replace je; somebody is fibbing somewhere! The confusion between the accusative case and je, which is officially blessed in rule 14, gives rise to a curious ambiguity. A commonly mentioned example of the use of je is veti je chevaloj "to bet on horses", which can also be veti chevalojn. So, since veti monon is correct for "to bet money", veti monon chevalojn is quite reasonably both "to bet money on horses" and "to bet horses on money"! Rules 8 and 13 of the grammar mean that en la domon "into the house" and en la domo "in the house" differ in the meaning of the preposition, but express this difference by changing the noun. This distinction does not extend to any other types of motion; thus el la domo "out of the house"; and if compound prepositions like de sur "off" (i.e. "from on") are permitted [TYE 50], what's wrong with al en la domo? Zamenhof's unnamed part of speech The ending -aw appears on - to the best of my knowledge - a mere 21 words, suggesting that Zamenhof once tried to create a new part of speech of unidentified function but gave up without tidying up the mess. Many of the words are both conjunctions and prepositions (malgraw "despite", antaw "before", anstataw "instead of"), but some are one or the other (aw "or", cirkaw "around"), a few are bona fide adverbs and should thus end in -e (baldaw "soon", apenaw "hardly"), and a couple are neither (adiaw "goodbye", naw "nine"). The correlatives Not mentioned in the grammar, but vital to the language anyway, are 45 "correlative" words which are formed by joining together one of 5 prefixes to one of 9 terminations; thus i-o "something", neni-u "nobody", chi-a "all kinds of", ti-el "thus". This is superficially one of Zamenhof's best ideas, and it looks clever enough to have persuaded some Esperantists that it's some sort of an indication of genius; but simple and transparently obvious phrases like de tiu "that one's", tia ejo "that place", and so on would be far better than arbitrary words which have nothing to do with the rest of the language. In any case, Zamenhof as usual contrived to make a mess of it, turning a potential silk purse into yet another sow's ear: There's no prefix for "this", so you have to put chi before "that" to get the horribly contrived chi ti-. Yet the important word "now", which should thus be the awkward chi tiam, is actually the entirely arbitrary nun. The system of grammatical endings so carefully laid out in the grammar is, for no obvious reason, completely ignored; for example the adverbial ending is now -el (ki-el "how?"), while -e (ki-e "where?") signifies place. Possession is indicated by -es; thus ki-es "whose" is distinct in form from de "of" (used with nouns) and -a (used with pronouns). That's three different, non-interchangeable, ways of expressing the same grammatical relation - precisely the sort of difficulty Esperanto is supposed to have eliminated! The rather pointless distinction between the endings -u and -o doesn't apply elsewhere. It would be nice to differentiate question words from relative pronouns, rather than lumping them together under k- and creating ambiguity in sentences like mi diris al la homo kiu parlis "I told the man, who spoke (?)". Are the correlatives which end in consonants immune from inflection? Are you, for example, really supposed to say mi havas neniomn for "I have none"? Some strange words result from inflecting certain correlatives, such as iujn, neniejn; and of course, you have to say kiuj estas ili, with plural correlative, for "who are they?". Bizarrely, you need to use the correlatives in comparisons of equality: mi estas tiel inteligenta kiel vi "I am as intelligent as you", rather than something analogous to mi estas pli inteligenta ol vi "I am more intelligent than you", which would surely be clearer and more obvious. Vocabulary The introduction to Millidge's dictionary contains a passage which implicitly berates English-speaking Esperantists for not being able to use the language properly, using the following two quotes from Zamenhof in Unua Libro de la Lingvo Esperanto to make the point: "... everything you write in the international language will be clearly understood at once (with a key or without it) by anyone, who not only had never previously mastered the grammar of the language, but had never even heard of its existence" (italics mine). "... anyone learning my language without a text-book (...) will not imagine that the structure of the language differs in any way from that of his own native tongue". Both of these amount to little more than wishful thinking, since neither remotely approaches the truth; you need look no farther than the grammar, which quite clearly differs in structure from just about every language on the planet, to refute the second. These quotes look particularly laughable in the light of Esperanto's vocabulary, which despite Zamenhof's efforts, and the insistence of his followers, constitutes by far the most baffling and confusing part of the language. The theory Esperanto's vocabulary displays nineteenth-century mechanistic ideology in full flourish. The underlying assumption - inspired by Esperanto's predecessor Volapьk, as Zamenhof openly admitted - is that every word ever spoken in every language can be converted to an unambiguous and unique combination of "roots", which express basic meanings, and "affixes", which modify them; and by keeping the number of roots to a minimum, the memory-load is kept down, and a careful choice of affixes compensates by adding expressive power to the system. However, neither Zamenhof nor Volapьk's creator appreciated that meaning - like grammar - is in practice fluid and largely unpredictable, and unsuitable for shoehorning into such a rigid system. The English words "silly" and "villain", for example, once respectively meant "happy" and "farm worker". According to [DYER] (penultimate paragraph of "Adjectival suffixes"), Zamenhof originally attempted to build up Esperanto's entire vocabulary with less than a thousand roots; later on, because this number was patently inadequate, it was expanded to nearly three thousand, but even this turned out to be not enough. A rather telling consequence of this is that "... there is hardly an Esperanto translation of length which does not contain some words not to be found in the official vocabularies" [same source]. The result of all this is that Esperanto's vocabulary reproduces much of the very same chaos of natural language which it is supposed to have eliminated. Despite claims like those of [TYE 2] (the "regularisation" of the vocabulary is "regular and complete"), the reader will soon discover that the meanings of many Esperanto words are idiomatic, illogical or inconsistent with others, or even with languages with which a speaker may be familiar. In any case, there's a fundamental problem with such a vocabulary-building system: any potential gain in the reduction of the memory-load is offset by the necessity of having to work out what the words are supposed to mean, even without considering all the exceptions, irregularities and idiosyncracies. A communication on the to a learner a while ago gave it away: "Don't learn the roots, learn the words". The proof of the pudding, as they say... The roots [TYE 2] claims rather inaccurately that the roots come from "the most important languages of Western civilisation"; in fact, working out the exact origin of any given Esperanto root reveals much about the essentially arbitrary nature of what is supposed to be a "logical" language. The sensible thing would have been to choose roots which would be recognisable to the greatest number of people; however, Zamenhof's choices often seem to be as good as random. The only obvious guiding principle seems to have been a desire to take obscure roots from as many languages as possible, probably to avoid perceptions or charges of bias. Many roots - those favoured by propagandists when giving examples, strangely enough - are imported more or less without major change, such as hundo "dog" and vivi "to live". However, many more roots are unrecognisable for one reason or other, such as those which retain the same spellings as in the source languages and become unrecognisable when spoken according to Esperanto's rules; for example: word meaning & nbsp; source boato boat &nb sp; English (gains two syllables) birdo bird &nb sp; English (sounds more like "beard") soifo thirst & nbsp; French (sounds completely different) ohmo ohm ; German surname (the H has never been pronounced) or the roots which are distorted in nonobvious ways from their forms in the source language, among which are: word meaning & nbsp; source boji to bark French "aboyer" lerta clever & nbsp; "alert"? fulmo lightning &nbs p; "fulminate"! yes, really! venko victory French "vaincre" mejlo mile &nb sp; English pordo door &nb sp; Romance aldo alto &nbs p; Italian Investigation reveals that the last two were altered to avoid confusion with derivations from alta "high" and porti "to carry"; there are surely better words anyway, since "alto" is not really an everyday word for most people. A few roots even undergo both of these Zamenhofian transformations and become confusing twice over. If you don't know its Latin origins, one such is kvieta, which neither looks nor sounds like its English equivalent, "quiet". The random polyglot origins of the root-stock unavoidably create many "false friends", i.e. words with the same form but different meanings in two or more languages. This means that many Esperanto words don't mean what you might at first think; thus monoglot English speakers would have trouble recognising the actual meanings of flava, flata, logo and farti (respectively "yellow", "flattering", "enticement", "fare"), not to mention the bizarre contrivance adulto "adultery". Even something as basic as "to read" is less than obvious; a speaker of English unfamiliar with Romance languages who encounters lego (the derived noun) would have to consult several words (including "leg", "legal", "Lego", "legible", and "legless") before being told that it came originally came from Latin. Some meanings are expressed by more than one root: "master" could be any one of estro, mastro, or majstro; "colour" is hhromo in hhromotipo but natively farbo or koloro; and [RHD] mentions that all three of redakt-, redaktor- and redakci- are "commonly used" to express "the idea of editing". And a few roots are completely unnecessary: keno "resinous wood" is perhaps the best example, especially since it has a much better equivalent rezina ligno, leaving keno for something much more useful. We may never know why Zamenhof felt it necessary to distinguish between kiso and shmaco, both of which mean different sorts of "kiss". Making new words Before you can derive words from any given root, you have to worry whether the root is inherently nominal (shton-o "stone"), verbal (vid-i "to see") or adjectival (blank-a "white"); and there are plenty of inconsistencies here to trip you up: for example, martelo "hammer" is nominal, but shoveli "to shovel" is verbal. You also have to know if a verbal root is transitive or intransitive, i.e. whether it takes objects or not when not otherwise suffixed, since the distinction is unnecessarily important for the syntax. Having chosen your root, and reassured yourself of its category, you can make new words from it by a combination of three methods, which I've chosen my own names for since there doesn't seem to be any accepted terminology: Conversion - adding a grammatical part-of-speech ending directly. Compounding - joining two or more roots together. Derivation - adding one or more affixes before the grammatical endings. As with the grammar, you're only told that these methods make new words, but there are no rules to help you work out what the words are supposed to mean. This is a surprising omission in a language which claims to be "logical" and "precise", and it jars with Zamenhof's remarks at the beginning of this section. A thorough overhaul of the vocabulary-building principles was carried out in Ido, the most successful of the many reforms of Esperanto; the principles are explained in [DYER], and it's instructive to observe how Ido's vocabulary is so much clearer, more consistent and regular than Esperanto's. (This should not be taken to imply that I advocate Ido as la internaciona linguo, merely that I consider Ido to be a considerable improvement on Esperanto.) Even more thorough in combining precision and clarity with expressive power and logic is Rick Morneau's admirable , the rigour of which shows up the inadequacy of Zamenhof's efforts. Conversion A mere change of grammatical ending gives no indication of the number of derivational processes a word has undergone, nor of their nature; Ido's sensible "principle of reversibility" fixes this rather nicely. The following non-obvious results of conversion show what can happen: Original word Derived word blanka "white" blankas "is white" fundo "bottom" funde "thoroughly" shteli "to steal" shtele "furtively" suno "sun" & nbsp;suna "solar, sunny" (a sanctioned ambiguity) vivi "to live" viva "alive, lively" (another sanctioned ambiguity) hundo "dog" hunde "like a dog? doggy-style?" legi "to read" lega "???" Consider shtono "stone"; the converted adjective shton-a could mean any of "stony", "made of stone", "made of stones", "like stone", or possibly something else again. And there's no way to work out what the corresponding verb shton-as means, since you don't know if it's derived from the noun ("is a stone"?, with one step of conversion) or adjective (two steps, meaning something like "is stony", "is made of stone", "is like stone"). It could even be "stones", as a punishment for adulto. And consider the arbitrary and idiomatic adjectives sata "satiated" and flata "flattering". These seem to be shortcuts for the more precise participles satita and flatanta, from the verbs sati "to satiate" and flati "to flatter", yet the adjectives have the same form, whereas one participle is passive and the other active. This is not "regular and complete" by any criteria I recognise. It's no surprise, then, that an unnamed Esperanto textbook, quoted under "Derivation" in [DYER], recognises the problem and admits that "... it follows that the exact meanings of [words] have to be looked up in the dictionary...". Compounding The most glaring defect in the word-building system is the absence of any rules which explain what happens when you combine roots together. The dictionaries thus contain many compound words with meanings not predictable from their components; for example, postvivo is ambiguous between "survival" and "afterlife", and fruktodona "fertile" and poshomono "pocket-money" are formed idiomatically. Strangely, the dictionaries also give many words which aren't built up from Esperantine roots at all; many of these words are Latin or Greek compounds with elements which would be more recognisable than their Esperanto equivalents. "Astronomy" is thus astronomio - a form reasonably obvious to everybody - and not the rather ugly Esperanto compound stelscienco, while mikroskopo "microscope" would provide the useful root mikra- for "small" in place of the nasty malgranda. prognozo is used in [TYE] for "forecast" as in "weather forecast", but some equivalent of "prediction" would be more accurate. The individual elements of these international words sometimes clash with existing Esperanto roots, making a mockery of the entire system. The Fundamento, one of Esperanto's sacred texts, has this problem: fund- has something to do with bottoms or thoroughness, and ment- is "mint", so what should presumably mean "the Fundamental" actually means "mint of the bottom" or "thorough mint"! Derivation You're supposed to stick to the "official" affixes and not make up your own to remedy defects in the language; yet, as with the prepositions and conjunctions, nobody seems to have a definitive list anywhere. For example, [TYE 190-1] gives 10 prefixes and 31 suffixes, but other sources suggest different numbers. It's not obvious why derivation is always treated as being distinct from compounding, since affixes are elevated to the status of roots by the rule which states that an affix may be used as an independent word when used with the appropriate grammatical ending (for example, ar-o is "collection"). All the books I've read quite clearly make the distinction, however, and I feel obliged to defer to them. Yet the distinction is actually meaningless in practice, and Zamenhof's hybrid system would thus be better replaced by a single set of properly recognisable roots. Another problem with Esperanto's affix system is that, like the choices of parts of speech and roots, it is based upon an essentially arbitrary set of criteria. It's debatable whether it is possible to choose a universally useful set of affixes on purely objective grounds; Zamenhof's affixes are idiosyncratic and all questionable in one way or another. Moreover, according to , a logical system of derivational suffixing is only really possible with verbs; most of Esperanto's affixes, by contrast, are principally nominal. Affixes you don't need All of the following affixes are unnecessary and would be better expressed by separate words. mis- "wrongly". fi- and -ach-, two derogatives; but there are no affixes with the opposite meanings. Why? eks- "former, ex-". ek- "sudden or momentary"; this is easily confused with eks- when applied to roots which begin with s-. This has a place as a verbal aspect marker, but as such it would be better as a suffix. -ing- "holder for one object", which has no relation to teni "to hold". re- reproduces the ambiguity of its Latin source, which means both "again" and "back", creating words with two different, sometimes almost opposite, meanings: re-skribi "to reply" or "to rewrite"; re-iri "to return" or "go again". Affixes with unnecessarily vague meanings -ar- creates arb-ar-o for "forest" ("tree-collection"), which could also mean a line of Lombardy Poplars. Less forgivable is the misleading word ov-ar-o "collection of eggs", which pointlessly duplicates the meaning of nesto "nest". -uj- "container" really shouldn't be used to make names of countries such as Skot-ujo "Scotland", nor is -ej- "place" justified in words like lern-ejo "school" and pregh-ejo "church". These last two words are literally "learn-place" and "pray-place", which are too general in meaning; they could equally well refer to many other things such as "classroom" and "prayer room" in a school building. -ajh-, "something made from or possessing the quality of", is possibly the vaguest; it gives rise to idiomatic oddities like akr-ajho "edge" from akra "sharp", ov-ajho "omelette", ter-ajho "soil" from tero "the Earth", korp-ajho "flesh" from korpo "body", and others in [TYE 77-8]. It also creates pairs of words which pretend to have different meanings but don't; thus both kava and kav-ajha are given as "hollow" in my dictionary. Affixes of questionable benefit mal- doesn't mean "badly" or "wrongly", but forms opposites - a device Esperanto overuses to a ludicrous extent, for which reason it's probably the most hated affix in the language (certainly by me!). Thus common words like "small, short, narrow, old, left, bad, different" have to be mal-granda, mal-longa, mal-largha, mal-juna, mal-dekstra, mal-bona, mal-sama; and "loud" is the ridiculous malkvieta. Not only do these words require unnecessary mental gymnastics, they also gets monotonous if you have to use more than one or two of them. Even a basic meaning like "to open" is not exempt; it's mal-fermi, i.e. the opposite of fermi "to close"!!! As ever, there are unexplained exceptions: "left" and "right" are opposites (dekstra, mal-dekstra), but "north" and "south" aren't (norda, suda); why? And David Peterson informs me that some people like to say trista for "sad" anyway, rather than the malfelicha you're supposed to use. The augmentative -eg- and its opposite -et- reduce many possible degrees of size to just three. Thus the triplet vento, vent-eto, vent-ego "wind, breeze, gale" replaces the entire Beaufort Scale, and arb-eto (from arbo "tree") turns out to be "small tree, shrub", requiring the desparate-looking contrivance arb-et-ajho for "bush". Note also the typically idiomatic derivation rid-eti "to smile" from ridi "to laugh", which is clearly a lame attempt to keep the number of roots down; it would better mean "to chuckle". eta, derived from the suffix, seems to be a synonym for malgranda "small" - but if it isn't, as many sources imply, why is the distinction necessary? Is mal-eta the same as ega? Can you use -et-eg-a and -eg-et-a to make finer distinctions of size? Together with the vagaries of derivation and conversion, these suffixes provide further scope for ambiguities: if rugh-eta (derived from an adjective) is reasonably "reddish", then shtoneta (derived from a noun) is equally reasonably both "a bit like a stone" (shton-eta) and "like a pebble" (shtonet-a). And, for a language with supposedly high ideals and no grammatical genders, there's no excuse for the excusively feminine suffix -in-, which requires "woman" to be vir-ino "a female man" (not, strangely, the more neutral homino "female human"); the hypothetical converse, fem-ula for "man", is equally absurd. Inconsistently used affixes -il- is the worst offender: an Esperantist kombas "combs" with a komb-ilo and razas "shaves" with a raz-ilo, but brosas "brushes" with a broso, not the entirely logical bros-ilo (which is what, exactly?). It's also too vague: paf-ilo "gun" could mean anything which shoots, from a peashooter to a cannon; indeed, as [RHG] mentions, the official word for "cannon" (paf-il-ego "big shooting tool") is often rejected in favour of the more precise kanono. -ec- "quality" is necessary to make abstract nouns from nominal roots. Thus homo, hom-eco "man, manliness"; but compare the inconsistent firma, firmo "firm, firmness". blanko, blank-eco probably both mean "whiteness"; a correspondent informs me that blanko is used in phrases such as "the white of the eye", for which something like blankajho would be better. -an-, -ist- and -ul- all represent various types of people; note the inconsistency with mistiko "mysticism", mistik-ulo "mystic", but katolik-ismo "Catholicism", katoliko "Catholic". Brendan Linnane points out that the suffix -on-, which is used to form fractions (e.g. ses-ono "a sixth"), is also used on the word for "million", miliono, which is not a fraction; note its similarity in form to "thousandth", which is mil-ono, and in sound miljono, which could be anything. Ambiguities Because the affixes are short and arbitrary, many of them appear as parts of longer roots and so give rise to words with several possible meanings. An example for now is sukero, which means both "sugar" and suk-ero "a drop of juice"; more such words may be found in Appendix 2. Further ambiguities also arise when you mix affixes together, since there is no indication of what affects what. The classic example is mal-san-ul-ej-o, ultimately from the root san- "health" with the affixes mal- "opposite", -ul- "person" and -ej- "place". You're supposed to work out that this means "hospital", literally "place for a person the opposite of well"; even with this derivation it could also mean "private hospital room", "epidemic zone", and so on. If instead you parse it as malsan-ulejo, you get something like "sick building syndrome". Likewise, malgrandeta is both the opposite of grandeta "largish" and the diminutive of malgranda "small". There are at least nine ways of constructing something which looks equivalent to English "different", but probably isn't: alia, malsama, nesama, malsimila, nesimila, neidenta, malidenta, neegala, malegala. Things which seem to be affixes but aren't The four words debato, debeto, debito, debuto may seem to be related derivations from a stem deb-, but they aren't. Worse, some affixes mean different things at different times; thus the prefix eks- "former" has its meaning changed to "out of" (which should be el) in words such as eksciti "excite", ekstrakti "extract", ekstrema "extreme" and eksporto "export". Similarly, many words begin with pre-, which seems to mean "before", however there is no such prefix; the actual Esperanto equivalent is antaw-, which should really have been left as ante-. And a lot of words derived from Latin begin with kon- or its assimilated form kom-, retaining its meaning of "with" for which the Esperanto is actually kun; the unwary reader or listener must therefore wonder if the word is a compound with some form of koni "to know", or perhaps komo "comma". Affixes which aren't there The derivative apparatus is deficient in other ways too; one obvious omission is an affix meaning "the result of an action". Thus the nearest to "a piece of writing" or "something written" seems to be somewhere between skribitajho or skribajho, but the usual meaning for -ajh- doesn't imply this. Another try is skribito, but this properly means "a person who has been written", which is nonsense even in Zamenhofese. There's always skribo, but that could be something else again; although, in Ido, we can be sure that it's what we're looking for. Other observations The absence of any rules governing word-building in Esperanto and of any guidelines for working out the meanings of the results mean that, in practice, claims about the "expressive power" of the vocabulary are really inducements to be clever at the expense of clarity. As the great Otto Jespersen remarked in [JESP] (I have reformatted the text slightly, but not change the meaning): "When in an Esperanto book one stumbles on the word ghistiamajn and succeeds in making out that it means 'previous' and is a compound of the following elements: ghis [...] 'up to', tiam then, -a adjective ending, -j plural, -n accusative, then one cannot help asking oneself in the face of so much ingenuity if it is really necessary for an auxiliary language to be made up of such utterly arbitrary elements - a question to which the whole of the subsequent history (and of the second part of this book) gives an emphatic answer in the negative." Why would anyone want to say that for "previous", anyway, when the word-building system allows something like antawa? It isn't pretty, but at least it's reasonably transparent. False friends In Esperanto you can create false friends to your heart's content, and in the process destroy any vestiges of "international recognisability". Here are a few: Word &n bsp;Meaning What it resembles but doesn't mean fingr-ingo thimble & nbsp; finger ring fos-ilo spade fossil for-esto absence &nb sp; forest ses-ono one sixth season virgul-ino female virgin female comma (from French "virgule") virgulino has several other possible but incorrect meanings, such as a male gulino (by analogy with virbovo "bull"), or a hermaphrodite gulo. It's actually formed from the adjective virga "unspoiled" - which is also used of, for example, unploughed fields. , written by a linguistics graduate who knows what he's talking about, is the thoroughly unmissable cannon to this page's peashooter. about constructed languages, which makes the encouraging observation that "Esperanto seems to be on the wane". by L. H. Dyer, 1923, is a long, rather rambling, but ultimately devastating exposition of the defects of Esperanto, in particular the vocabulary. provides further information about Ido, plus and Objectivity is invited while reading these. , by the late Otto Jespersen, one of the greatest linguists of the 20th century. Largely a description of Jespersen's own IAL Novial; contains information about some of the defects with Esperanto. about a reformed English called Lango. The page contains some material about Esperanto and its faults. "A web geek's guide to artificial languages" also has and some about other IALs. The writer is critical, in a good-humoured way, of all of the languages, and even links to here! has, amongst other things, a succint , which quotes both this page and JBR's, and summarises everything quite nicely. Other pages of interest has a lot of information about Esperanto, including . contains some interesting pages, such as a summary of a [RHD], which contains some choice quotes and provocative anecdotal evidence, about the merits or otherwise of Esperanto's vocabulary. Also of note is his [RHG]; many of the points are pertinent - in particular the conclusion - and those who consider Esperanto's design to be perfect or optimal should take note. Bruce Gilson has some pages with which cast further doubt on Esperanto's claims to greatness. Mark Rosenfelder's Language Construction Kit has a short list of some of . Here's an of the conlang mailing list which contains a debate about how complicated Esperanto actually is (it's a bit over halfway down). The feeling is that it does indeed seem to be more complicated than many Esperantists would like to admit. If you want a view from the opposite side of the fence, Ken Caviness's so-called is actually a rather thinly disguised piece of PR in favour of Esperanto, and one of the original inspirations for this critique. As is typical of a lot of Esperanto apologetics, it goes to unnecessary lengths to justify those features of Esperanto which are beneath contempt and can't avoid occasionally patronizing the reader. Can't anyone who supports Esperanto discuss it without seemingly trying to put people off? (here as translated by William Auld). It seems to say that anyone who claims not to like Esperanto is probably not being honest, rather than actually having good reasons for it. Rick Morneau has some about artificial language design. 11 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Michael K. Senior Member United States Joined 5730 days ago 568 posts - 886 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Esperanto | Message 2 of 26 25 June 2012 at 3:47am | IP Logged |
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yawn
tl;dr (too long, didn't read) I'm pretty sure you're a troll, but only time will tell. Also, please cite your sources, it's plagiarizing if you don't. It appears your argument comes from Geoff Allan Eddy, so I leave you to post an active link at your convenience because I don't feel like hunting down links right now. Most of the arguments are addressed here . Spend your own time reading the rebuttals. Unlike you, I won't post a wall of text and not give my own opinions on it. All I have to say is try the language for a month or so. If you like it, great, if not, that's your loss. I see no point in arguing about Esperanto, or any other topic, for that matter, on the Internet. Like they say: arguing on the Internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded. 9 persons have voted this message useful | |
| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5131 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 3 of 26 25 June 2012 at 4:19am | IP Logged |
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Awesome first post, bro.
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| GRagazzo Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4962 days ago 115 posts - 168 votes Speaks: Italian, English* Studies: Spanish, Swedish, French | Message 4 of 26 25 June 2012 at 6:39am | IP Logged |
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I thought this was pretty interesting, although it was a bit long. I was thinking of
learning Esperanto for a while, but you have persuaded me against it. Thanks for the information. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 5 of 26 25 June 2012 at 10:06am | IP Logged |
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It is mostly nonsense. Esperanto is by no means restricted by 16 rules, no need to refer
to them. Of course it is idiomatic, has unnecessary complications and illogical parts but it is much better than natural languages. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6704 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 6 of 26 25 June 2012 at 10:17am | IP Logged |
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Basically the points raised by lernanto (or his sources) are correct, and I have myself pointed out several of the 'could-have-been-easier' features of Esperanto, sometimes with less than lukewarm reactions from established speakers who thought that I was going to reject those features in the language. However the list of complaints would have been far longer for any natural language, and there you are just told to shut up and take things as they are.
Esperanto is far from being a simple language whose grammar can be written on one page, but it is still simpler than any natural language - as can be seen from the time it takes to learn it for a person who already knows at least one major European language. There may be simpler and more logical conlangs out there, but they have not caught on, so if you think it is difficult to find Esperanto speakers in the street it will be even worse to find Lojban or Ido or Novio or whatever-speakers. The problem is that Esperanto is judged on the most idealistic (or naive) expectations of its founding father and his first disciples. But that's history. Seen from my perspective Esperanto is just another language out there, with just enough speakers to make it worthwhile to learn it. The message to any learner of a natural language is "take it or leave" it, and as I said the list of illogical and irregular features of any natural language is longer. I don't see the point in blaming Esperanto for its oddities - actually those oddities make learning Esperanto almost like learning a natural language, and after so many years of existence I think it should be judged on what it is now, and I know by now that it can and should be learned simply as another language with a string of weird and unnecessary features. So Esperanto has cumbersome letters? OK, so has Polish and Czech (and Danish). So Esperanto has an accusative? Well I have heard of other languages with that feature. And at least it hasn't got the totally superfluous -s of the 3. person singular in the present of verbs with a number of exception which plagues the poor language in which I'm formulating this rant. The plural ending -j is puzzling, but at least it is constant. And the lack of compound verbal forms based on 'havi' (to have) is probably caused by Zamenhof's Slavic background, so I just 'think Russian' when I have to avoid them - and it is still less of a problem than the need to have two separate sets of verbal forms with different rules in spoken vs. written French. All languages are irritating and stupid and weird, and if they weren't irritating and stupid and weird it would be boring to study them. The only relevant argument against learning Esperanto I can see is that you won't miss it if you don't learn it. And nobody in their sane mind can really believe that there are 8 mio. speakers of Esperanto - at most there are 8 mio. who have skimmed a book about it (and maybe decided not to learn it). The true number is unknown because even the best estimates are decades old by now, but maybe 1 mio can to some extent understand a simple written text in it, and far fewer can speak or write fluently in Esperanto. And these people are spread all over the world. But unlike some far 'larger' languages Esperanto has speakers who are very active on the internet, who arrange meetings, who have a natural interest in attracting new learners and who have provided just enough grammars, dictionaries and spoken internet sources to make it possible to learn their language by selfstudy. Edited by Iversen on 26 June 2012 at 5:18pm 15 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 7 of 26 25 June 2012 at 3:05pm | IP Logged |
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"It's virtually impossible to pronounce the N's in banko "bank", panjo "Mummy" and
senbarba "beardless" in the same way, especially if you're talking quickly;" It makes me proud to be Russian. For us impossible is nothing. especially the first claim is just ridiculous. 6 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Pisces Bilingual Pentaglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4623 days ago 143 posts - 284 votes Speaks: English*, Finnish*, French, SwedishC1, Esperanto Studies: German, Spanish, Russian | Message 8 of 26 29 June 2012 at 8:01pm | IP Logged |
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*Yawn* indeed!
I like the way Esperanto is criticized for being too European and not European enough. There are things I don't really like about Esperanto, but that's inevitable. There are some things I think are good about it, like the accusative, that many people don't like. Also, no language can be "logical" - it barely means anything to say a language is logical or not logical. 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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