Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7156 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish
| Message 169 of 177 20 December 2013 at 7:53am | IP Logged |
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Duan Newbie Canada Joined 4796 days ago 36 posts - 48 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Polish, French
| Message 170 of 177 20 December 2013 at 5:36pm | IP Logged |
Hi there, just want to put my name in the hat as another interested in a Polish team for
2014. What exactly is required to get a team going? As it seems like there are a few of
us. Certainly not as many as some of the more popular languages, but I'm trying to
understand why that's a problem?
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Mooby Senior Member Scotland Joined 6105 days ago 707 posts - 1220 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Polish
| Message 171 of 177 20 December 2013 at 8:20pm | IP Logged |
Hi Duan,
Thanks for dropping by, it's great that you're learning Polish.
Basically, this Polish Team ('Żubr') is disbanding at the end of the year.
Even if someone is prepared to lead it, I think the momentum has shifted and TAC 2014 is upon us. I won't be participating in TAC, and there are only 2 remaining active members left. However, all is not lost since these members are in a proposed Polish-Ukrainian Team which is gaining quite a bit of interest. So my advice is to make yourself known to the guys in this new team, and tell them you'd like to join as a Polish learner.
I should stress that nothing is finalised quite yet.
To start your own team, make your proposals here (I noticed that you have already expressed your interest here). From your proposals you could devise an alternative Polish(-only) team and create it's home page. But this would be a potential rival to what is already taking shape, and although you're free to try it, it's not something I'd recommend.
So in summary:
If you strongly want to make a team, you can. But as a Polish-Ukrainian team is gaining momentum, my advice would be to join that instead.
Edited by Mooby on 20 December 2013 at 8:29pm
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Duan Newbie Canada Joined 4796 days ago 36 posts - 48 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Polish, French
| Message 172 of 177 20 December 2013 at 9:46pm | IP Logged |
Hi Mooby,
Thanks for the explanation. I searched for a thread regarding this before I posted my
original message and I guess I must not have noticed it. Fair enough, I will head over
to the Polish/Ukrainian thread and let my interest be known :)
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Mooby Senior Member Scotland Joined 6105 days ago 707 posts - 1220 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Polish
| Message 173 of 177 20 December 2013 at 10:03pm | IP Logged |
That's great Duan!
There are some very experienced people on the Polish/Ukrainian team so you'll get loads of help and inspiration. All the best for your Polish studies next year!
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Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7156 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish
| Message 174 of 177 27 December 2013 at 4:00am | IP Logged |
Chung wrote:
As my study efforts in 2013 will form part of the team's "output", I will reveal in brief my plans for studying Polish.
I plan to continue working with "Polish in 4 Weeks" and at my current pace should be finished with it by the middle of the 2013. I'm not sure what I will do next be it to go for the more structured path by working through "Polski bez problemu!" or getting back into "Kiedyś wrócisz tu" or just use more authentic materials (e.g. short YouTube clips, short stories) and work on closing gaps in my knowledge of Polish with native speakers' help and independent reading of reference material as these gaps are revealed by taking in these materials.
My plan for 2012 was to involve working with DLI Polish Refresher Course - Listening Comprehension Module 1 Unit 1-40 (textbook & .mp3s) and Reading Authentic Polish I (text only), However I broke from this goal by ditching the Referesher Course (it was really tough on me to the point where I was losing motivation) quite early while my studies in other languages made me decrease my effort in Polish by the second half of the year, hence my use of Polish in 4 Weeks to maintain or review my knowledge. |
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Since this has been posted, I can say that I've accomplished these modest goals in that I did finish "Polish in 4 Weeks" in November and got back into "Kiedyś wrócisz tu... Gdzie nadwislanski brzeg". See here for my plans for 2014.
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Bakunin Diglot Senior Member Switzerland outerkhmer.blogspot. Joined 5130 days ago 531 posts - 1126 votes Speaks: German*, Thai Studies: Khmer
| Message 175 of 177 27 December 2013 at 9:49am | IP Logged |
Not sure if you guys are interested in collocations, but in case you are, there is an excellent online resource available: the Narodowy Korpus Języka Polskiego.
For instance, a search for "książka" gives the following collocations:
książka adresowa
książka kucharska
najnowsza książka
książka ukazała
tania książka
książka zawiera
ulubiona książka
książka o
... and many more
A search for "granica" gives:
górna granica
granica biegnie
granica skręca
dolna granica
granica między
wschodnia granica
... and many more
The results are sorted by significance.
If you click on one of the results, you get additional information and examples, for instance clicking on "granica między" gives
granica między dobrem a złem
granica między sztuką a rzeczywistością
granica między życiem a śmiercią jest bardzo cienka
Zdaniem wójta Mikulicza granica między gminą Kunice a Legnicą powinna przebiegać wzdłuż potoku Wierzbiak
Granica między Tadżykistanem i Afganistanem ciągnie się przez 1,5 tys. km, wzdłuż rzek Piandż i Amu-daria
... and so on. For each of those examples, the full paragraph the expression is coming from is availabe. Note the use of "a" versus "i".
There's also Korpus Języka Polskiego Wydawnictwa Naukowego PWN which shows occurrences for all forms of a given search term (declensions, conjugations), but doesn't seem to have the powerful statistics provided by NJKP.
I personally like to play around with corpora, and in particular collocations, when I struggle with a particular word for one reason or the other. Looking at a few examples, and maybe adding them to Anki, can do wonders. Looking up, or checking, collocations is also useful when writing essays.
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Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7156 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish
| Message 176 of 177 30 December 2013 at 7:17am | IP Logged |
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