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| iguanamon Pentaglot Senior Member Virgin Islands Speaks: Ladino Joined 5264 days ago 2241 posts - 6731 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, Haitian Creole, Creole (French) | Message 9 of 22 27 April 2012 at 12:56pm | IP Logged | ||
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There are two other FSI Italian courses. The first one is from 1976: FSI Italian Programmed in pdf format but without audio, and a lot of English, unfortunately.
The more thorough course dates from 1965 and is available at ERIC here: FSI Italian Post Language Course 1965 The pdf has 633 pages. There's no audio available and the pdf should be ocr'ed and/or optimized in order to be more readable. According to the preface of the document: "This tentative course, which does not contain either explicit instructions to the user nor fully detailed explanations of grammar, provides lesson materials for a short course in Italian. It was produced by the staff of FSI Post Language programs in Italy and is designed for use in short, introductory courses for U.S. personnel in the field by instructors trained by and operating under the supervision of an FSI Regional Language Supervisor." Seems to be a good introductory course. It may be useful as a supplement, even if without audio and somewhat dated- talk of mimeographs, stencils, onion paper and typewriters. Hey, what do you expect from 1965? Edited by iguanamon on 27 April 2012 at 1:32pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| DaraghM Diglot Senior Member Ireland Joined 6153 days ago 1947 posts - 2923 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Russian, Hungarian | Message 10 of 22 21 June 2013 at 3:23pm | IP Logged | ||
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Since my French is upper intermediate (B1+) approaching Basic Fluency (B2), I won't start any new courses. I've plenty to keep me going as it is. I just wish I'd looked into French in Action earlier in my studies. I knew about the television programs, but I didn't know the course books were also entirely in French, with over sixty hours of audio. I've listened to the audio and it's really cleverly constructed. It's not like FSI drills but more interactive and designed to aid spoken proficiency. The audio quality is also very good compared to FSI or DLI Edited by DaraghM on 21 June 2013 at 3:24pm 7 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| vogue Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4256 days ago 109 posts - 181 votes Speaks: English*, Italian, Spanish Studies: Ukrainian | Message 11 of 22 21 June 2013 at 5:04pm | IP Logged | ||
I second this; I would have gotten much better grades in my arabic and Spanish classes! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5558 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona | Message 12 of 22 21 June 2013 at 9:16pm | IP Logged | ||
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HTLAL!
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| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4830 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh | Message 13 of 22 21 June 2013 at 10:17pm | IP Logged | ||
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If only I had known about the concept of comprehensible input and how best to make use of
it, when I started self-learning of languages. 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6599 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 14 of 22 21 June 2013 at 10:52pm | IP Logged | ||
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I mostly wish I had realized earlier that I'm an aural learner. And also the huge difference that massive listening makes.
From the more minor things, the cloze deletion format for flash cards. edit: also Destinos, GLOSS and lyricstraining. And Criminal case game though mostly because they keep adding new cases and catching up is so hard. Edited by Serpent on 21 June 2013 at 10:54pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Gala Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4552 days ago 229 posts - 421 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Italian | Message 15 of 22 22 June 2013 at 12:01am | IP Logged | ||
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FSI, without a doubt. By the time I encountered it my Spanish was already at least
high-intermediate for passive skills and writing, but I was not happy with my speaking skills; I was functional, but lacking in automaticity and fluidity. I went through just the audio portion of FSI Spanish Basic in its entirety (just finished a couple months ago) and benefited tremendously from it. But I can't help but wonder what kind of difference it would have made if I had gone through the entire course, books and all, when I was at a stage where doing so would actually have been a learning experience rather than a speaking practice exercise. I did use Destinos (as well as many other resources, both native and non)beforehand, both books and videos, which I still highly recommend as a comprehensive course, although I wish I had done the audio for it. But I'm enough of a fanatic about my Spanish that I would have done both Destinos and FSI concurrently if I'd known about the latter. I don't actually want to develop automaticity in speaking French, as I'm afraid it would interfere with my Spanish, which I will be teaching. My goal for French (and probably any other language I take up in the future) is just speaking functionality with a decent accent and advanced passive skills, so I won't be using FSI. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| YnEoS Senior Member United States Joined 4256 days ago 472 posts - 893 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Russian, Cantonese, Japanese, French, Hungarian, Czech, Swedish, Mandarin, Italian, Spanish | Message 16 of 22 23 June 2013 at 4:58am | IP Logged | ||
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I wish I knew about Audacity's truncate silence and apply chain features. It's made a lot of courses much better for study, and it would've saved me many many hours of editing courses manually if I had known about it sooner.
Not a big deal, but I wish I knew about the Margarita Madrigal courses earlier in my French studies, since they're really terrific beginner courses. Still getting something out of them though, and I'm quite excited to be using the Russian course from the beginning. For Cantonese, I wish I knew about the old Teach Yourself/Linguaphone course sooner and spent less time trying to work through the crappy new one. Still a pretty new language learner though, so I'm sure there will be many more discoveries to come. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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