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administrator Hexaglot Forum Admin Switzerland FXcuisine.com Joined 7377 days ago 3094 posts - 2987 votes 12 sounds Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, German, Italian, Spanish, Russian Personal Language Map
| Message 1 of 31 16 April 2007 at 7:39am | IP Logged |
Due to popular demand I will start a forum glossary to help members understand the local lingo. Once we reach a stable version I'll make it definitive so please consider this as work in progress.
FORUM GLOSSARY
6WC
Challenge launched by Sprachprofi, a forum member to see what could be learned from an unknown foreign language in 6 weeks with only 30 minutes a day. More info here.
ARDASCHIR
The pseudonym of Prof. Alexander Arguelles, academic linguist, polyglot and great contributor to this forum in its first year.
ASSIMIL
A French language program now available in English.
CHORUSING
The practice of trying to pronounce at the same time words in a foreign languages heard from a tape or sound file.
ECHOING
Repeating a sound, syllable, word or phrase after a speaker (person or audio tape). Different from chorusing in that the language learner repeats a word or phrase after the tape has said it rather than at the same time.
FIA
French in Action. A video course with accompanying text books.
FSI
Foreign Service Institute. Often refers to the language programs developed by the Foreign Service Institute, a branch of the US State Department, to train American diplomats. Often considered one of the top three language programs.
LEITNER SYSTEM
A simple spaced repetition flash card system which can be used with physical flash cards as well as computer programs.
LINGUAPHONE
A British language program styled in a similar way to Assimil.
MNEMOSYNE
An open-source spaced repetition flash card program. A simple alternative to SuperMemo.
PIMSLEUR
A popular audio-only language program based on spaced repetition and echoing with a wide variety of languages offered.
ROSETTA STONE, THE
Language learning software based on picture-word association.
SHADOWING
For Ardaschir shadowing is a synonym of chorusing (see above). For others, the practice of following each and every word in a foreign language tape or sound file or radio program etc... and trying to understand their meaning. Full discussion in What is "Shadowing"? and To Ardaschir, on "Shadowing".
SPACED REPETITION
A method that involves intervals between subsequent reviews of the material that increase upon each successful repetition.
SUPERMEMO
Polish flash-card software using spaced repetition.
TRANSPARENCY
The resemblance between two foreign languages from the point of view of the language learner.
This message is updated continuously. Please feel free to add more words that should be part of this forum glossary and let me know if the definitions above should be improved.
Edited by administrator on 17 April 2007 at 9:47am
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| Raincrowlee Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 6703 days ago 621 posts - 808 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin, Korean, French Studies: Indonesian, Japanese
| Message 2 of 31 16 April 2007 at 8:24am | IP Logged |
PIMSLEUR
A popular audio-only language program with a wide variety of languages offered. Often considered one of the top three language programs.
FSI
Foreign Service Institute. Often refers to the language programs developed to train American diplomats. Often considered one of the top three language programs.
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| Zorndyke Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6959 days ago 374 posts - 382 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: Czech
| Message 3 of 31 16 April 2007 at 9:12am | IP Logged |
When Ardaschir said he "shadowed" the tapes, he described it as the following:
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1) I do not simply "listen," I "shadow." "Shadowing" means that you say what you hear instantaneously (rather than in a pause thereafter, as in the FSI methods), preferably while in motion, at least while pacing your room, but ideally while walking in the woods.
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So, isn't shadowing and chorusing actually the same?
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| furrykef Senior Member United States furrykef.com/ Joined 6473 days ago 681 posts - 862 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Japanese, Latin, Italian
| Message 4 of 31 16 April 2007 at 9:18am | IP Logged |
LEITNER SYSTEM
A simple spaced repetition flash card system which can be used with physical flash cards as well as computer programs.
MNEMOSYNE
An open-source spaced repetition flash card program. A simple alternative to SuperMemo.
Also, I'd refer to SuperMemo as a "spaced-repetition" flash card program and not just a flash card program, because the most important thing about SuperMemo's design is spaced repetition; that spaced repetition is easiest (and most effective?) to do with flash cards is incidental. I also wouldn't call it a "Polish flash card program" because, though the software comes from Poland, that's irrelevant and potentially confusing information (the program has nothing to do with the Polish language, for example, except that I'd guess there is a Polish version of the software).
To clarify what "spaced repetition" is, we can define that as well:
SPACED REPETITION
A method that involves intervals between subsequent reviews of the material that increase upon each successful repetition.
(I don't know how often spaced repetition is talked about here, but if it isn't talked about much, I can guarantee it'll be talked about more often while I'm here. ;))
- Kef
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| administrator Hexaglot Forum Admin Switzerland FXcuisine.com Joined 7377 days ago 3094 posts - 2987 votes 12 sounds Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, German, Italian, Spanish, Russian Personal Language Map
| Message 5 of 31 16 April 2007 at 11:05am | IP Logged |
Thanks - I'll update the initial post as your comments come in.
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6910 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 6 of 31 16 April 2007 at 11:12am | IP Logged |
Zorndyke wrote:
When Ardaschir said he "shadowed" the tapes, he described it as the following:
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1) I do not simply "listen," I "shadow." "Shadowing" means that you say what you hear instantaneously (rather than in a pause thereafter, as in the FSI methods), preferably while in motion, at least while pacing your room, but ideally while walking in the woods.
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According to several members (including me) it isn't. The major difference is that you "sing" the chorus in unison with the track, and "follow" the spoken word as a shadow. If you and I meet, I can (try to) shadow your speech, and vice versa. We don't chorus.
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| patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7016 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map
| Message 7 of 31 16 April 2007 at 5:14pm | IP Logged |
LINGUAPHONE
A British language program styled in a similar way to Assimil.
FIA
French in Action. A video course with accompanying text books.
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| Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6583 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German
| Message 8 of 31 16 April 2007 at 11:38pm | IP Logged |
Some suggestions to changes. My addendums in bold.
6WC
Challenge launched by Sprachprofi, a forum member, to see what could be learned from an unknown foreign language in 6 weeks, with only 30 minutes a day. More info in the thread Learning a language for 6 weeks.
ASSIMIL
A French language program now available in English. Often considered one of the top three language programs.
(This is the third one, right?)
CHORUSING
The practice of trying to pronounce at the same time words in a foreign language heard from a speaker (sometimes called classroom chorusing, if it involves a teacher and one or several students), tape or sound file.
PIMSLEUR
A popular audio-only language program based on echoing with a wide variety of languages offered. Often considered one of the top three language programs.
(or is this too much cross-reference?)
ROSETTA STONE, THE
Language learning software based on picture-word association.
Should we include links in the definitions? Like, linking to the Assimil homepage, the fsi-language-courses, etc.? Or just link to relevant threads within the forum, as in the Shadowing definition?
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