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 Message 729 of 3959
21 April 2009 at 3:34pm | IP Logged 
DU: Het Nederlands zou niet worden onderschat. Ik lees nu de Nederlandse grammatica van Routledge als goede-nacht-lectuur en heb net overleefd de hoofdstukken over de uitgangen van bijvoeglijke naamwoorden en de keuz tussen -en en -s als meervoudse ending. Dat is zeker niet makkelijk!

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You should not underestimate the difficulty of Dutch. I have right now the Dutch grammar of Routledge lying on my night table, and I have just barely survived the chapters about -e or not -e on adjektives in nominal phrases and the choice between the noun endings -s and -en. Those things are certainly not simple!


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 Message 730 of 3959
21 April 2009 at 3:48pm | IP Logged 
Iversen wrote:
DU:
You should not underestimate the difficulty of Dutch. I have right now the Dutch
grammar of Routledge lying on my night table, and I have just barely survived the
chapters about -e or not -e on adjektives in nominal phrases and the choice between
the noun endings -s and -en. Those things are certainly not simple!



I'll just have to cross that bridge when I come to it.
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 Message 731 of 3959
21 April 2009 at 4:33pm | IP Logged 
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IT: Si può dire "geyser" (raramente "geysir") in Italiano, - non ho visto mai un nome nativo, e non credo che esista un solo geyser in Italia (soltanto volcani e luoghi con altre forme di attività, come per esempio i famosi Campi Flegrei al norte di Napoli). Una delle cose strane di Encelado è che tutta l'attività pare essere concentrata sull'emisfero sud delle luna. É anche molto sorprendente che le emissioni che si ha visto pare che contengono acqua piuttosto che per esempio metano.


IT: Il sistema solare era la prima materia dell'astronomia che mi ha interessato. Dunque questo era il commincio del mio hobby. Per gli scientifici era veramente sorprendente di scoprire questi geyser sulla luna Encelade. Ho letto sul questo tema qualche mesi fa, ma e una buona ripetizione per me leggerlo in Italiano.

E possibile d'avere in un sistema solare due lune con lo stesso nome "Callisto"? Io non vorrei crederlo!

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 Message 732 of 3959
21 April 2009 at 8:24pm | IP Logged 
It shouldn't be, and it isn't - I have checked my sources, and I'm fairly sure that I have misread the name "Calipso" (the daughter of Atlas and Tethys, both Titans), known for keeping Odysseus at her abode for seven long years.

The 61 moons of Saturn:
English Wiki
Italian Wiki

The 63 moons of Jupiter (including the true Callisto):
English Wiki
German Wiki

The titanide temptress Calypso:
English Wiki
Greek Wiki

The nymph Callisto, daughter of a mortal king of Arcadia:
English Wiki
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 Message 733 of 3959
21 April 2009 at 9:17pm | IP Logged 
Iversen wrote:
It shouldn't be, and it isn't - I have checked my sources, and I'm fairly sure that I have misread the name "Calipso" (the daughter of Atlas and Tethys, both Titans), known for keeping Odysseus at her abode for seven long years.


IT: Dunque si puo concludere che la pianeta Giove ha una luna "Callisto" scoperta nell'anno 1610 di Galileo Galilei e la pianeta Saturno ha una luna "Calipso" scoperta nell'anno 1980. E meglio di non confondere le due!

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PS: Grazie per il link de la Wikipedia Italiana!

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 Message 734 of 3959
21 April 2009 at 9:23pm | IP Logged 
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IT: Ho scritto ieri un poco sopra la mitologia greca, incluso un riferimento ai titani, che erano figli e figlie della Terra e del Cielo (Gaia e Urano). Ma conosciamo i titani anche da un altro contesto, cioè come i nomi di un gran numero delle lune del sistema solare. Le lune di Saturno (il nome romano per Khronos stesso (il tempo)) comprendono ovviamente in primo luogo la grande luna Titano, ma anche Rea, Prometeo, Epimeteo, Mimas, Calipso, Iperione, Iapeto e Encelado - tutti titani. E sulla luna Encelado he letto oggi un articolo nella revista Italiana "Le Scienze". Questa luna fu studiato dal satellite Cassini (astronomo Italiano!) e si è rivalato come una delle lune più attive - ci sono alcune zone con crateri, ma la maggior parte della superficie sembra essere stata sciolta, e queste zone sono pieni di crepacci e fissure, ma altrimenti piane come la superficie di un litro di gelato alla vaniglia del supermercato. Alcuni astronomi avventurosi hanno infatti proposto che c'è un serbatoio di ghiaccio sotto la superficie, ma probabilmente senza vaniglia.

(correction) Calipso e la luna di Saturno.


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 Message 735 of 3959
21 April 2009 at 9:45pm | IP Logged 
FR: Demain l'entreprise qui m'offre le nouveau travail va me donner un coup de téléphone pour tester ma capacité de téléphoner en français (et en néerlandais).

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NL: Ik heb ondertussen dat telefoongesprek van 15 minuten duur gehad en zoals verwacht moest ik beide talen Frans en Nederlands spreken. Een resultaat krijg ik pas morgen (donderdag) te weten.

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 Message 736 of 3959
21 April 2009 at 10:10pm | IP Logged 
Iversen wrote:
DU: Het Nederlands zou niet worden onderschat. Ik lees nu de Nederlandse grammatica van Routledge als goede-nacht-lectuur en heb net overleefd de hoofdstukken over de uitgangen van bijvoeglijke naamwoorden en de keuz tussen -en en -s als meervoudse ending. Dat is zeker niet makkelijk!

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Niet helemaal makkelijk, inderdaad, maar wel *veel* makkelijker dan het Duits en allemaal dat gedoe met der/die/das/den/des/e/er/es/en/em

Not absolutely easy, for sure, but *much* easier than German and all that things with der/die etc




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