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patrickwilken
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Message 25 of 28

03 September 2013 at 10:25am | IP Logged

Iversen wrote:

Unfortunately that leaves me with a number of languages which I only can speak on conferences (Esperanto) or not at all (Platt).

There is Platt on Twitter: Plattsnack

Edited by patrickwilken on 03 September 2013 at 2:58pm
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Iversen
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Message 26 of 28

03 September 2013 at 12:26pm | IP Logged

montmorency wrote:

I thought (perhaps elsewhere), Iversen implied it was not as healthy as it once was, even a small number of decades ago. However, I've just re-read his last post, and he was talking about preferring to immerse himself in the dominant language, and perhaps that wouldn't be Platt, even in areas where it is still spoken.

The one time I have been to East Frisia (? 10 years ago?) a young man I spoke to said
proudly "wir sprechen hier Platt", but he only spoke to me in Hochdeutsch (wisely since I would probably not have understood full-blown Platt).

I see a few token messages in Platt here and there in the cities in Northern German, and there may still be the odd TV program in Platt on on a Sunday morning once a month - but to find real living speakers in the cities is like finding a needle in a haystack. Maybe there are a few elderly ladies in the country side, but you can't just step out of the local bus and wait at the roadside for a native speaker. As I wrote, you more or less need to settle in a minority language area to find those people who still proudly speak their old language to foreigners.

If I had met that young man from East Friesland then I wouldn't have let him escape that easily - my Low German may not be perfect and I certainly don't know all the dialect words, but I wouldn't blow a chance to use it. Apart from my video I have only spoken it once: at the polyglot conference I was speaking Dutch when I accidentally included a couple of Low German words - and then I thought that precisely Dutch speakers at a polyglot conference might be able to understand Platt so I decide to switch to that language, and it seemed to function. The quality of my speech was probably dismal with so little notice, but I did use the opportunity when it arose.

BTW it's the same thing with our old dialects here in Denmark. I know persons who speak more or less hardcore dialect here, but mostly in the countryside, and mostly quiet people without much contact with foreigners - else they would have switched to Standard Danish long ago.

patrickwilken wrote:

Iversen wrote:

Unfortunately that leaves me with a number of languages which I only can speak on conferences (Esperanto) or not at all (Platt).

There is Platt on Twitter: @Plattsnack !

Unfortunately there is not 'me' on Twitter. If I somehow miraculously did enter the 21. century I might timidly try Skype, but then stop at the doorstep of Facebook and never ever reach the blessed realm of Twitter. But thanks for the tip.

Edited by Iversen on 04 September 2013 at 1:14pm
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prz_
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Message 27 of 28

03 September 2013 at 11:16pm | IP Logged

Luxembourg, Malta, Oslo, Stockholm, Amsterdam too :-] Paris seems to be nice too, but it has some other disadvantages, so I would prefer something like Oslo Amsterdam :P
Oh, and Sarajevo - you'll be able to learn three languages: Serbian, Bosnian and Croatian :D

Edited by prz_ on 03 September 2013 at 11:17pm
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Josquin
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Message 28 of 28

03 September 2013 at 11:26pm | IP Logged

patrickwilken wrote:

My wife says they used to have Platt reading competitions in her school to keep the language alive. She also thinks there is a theater group in Hamburg that puts on Platt plays.

That would be the Ohnsorg-Theater. You can also read about it on Wikipedia.

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