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1e4e6
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 Message 9 of 11
09 September 2013 at 9:27am | IP Logged 
I still find that in the UK, relatively reasonable interest and study remains in
languages. Probably not as much as Belgium, Norway, or Switzerland, but
internationally, possibly.

There is a local Instituto Cervantes in Manchester somewhere in Deansgate that, I
think, offers C2 classes in their offerings along with the usual A1/A2, etc. So perhaps
as time passes more people are attracted to seriously mastering languages.

http://manchester.cervantes.es/en/courses_spanish/general_in
formation/season_courses.ht
m#cursosDELE

I have not seen the building, but I usually go to that area to eat at La Viña...Still
at least there is the opportunity to go into the city to learn language to a high
level. It is nice to have the availability of this option, and I am not sure if the
majority of countries throughout the world have this advantage. Expectations can always
be high, if an academy like this exists close to one's residence though.

Hopefully the UK increases in language learning, although I am confident that it shall
in the near future. Especially when flying for a weekend holiday to Lisbon or Prague
costs less than taking the train from Manchester Piccadilly to King's Cross.

I do not know how others are, but if I wish to achieve something with high
expectations, I leave the expectations high, but continue to strive for it regardless
of time required. I would wish to get to C2 in Spanish, French, and Dutch eventually.
But instead of saying, if I cannot achieve it within five years that I quit, I say if
it takes me 25 years to do it, then so shall it be. I have been learning Spanish for
ten years, and I would never resign myself to stop trying for C2. The others for less
years, but still, if it took me 25 more years, I would not complain. It would be better
than resigning.

Edited by 1e4e6 on 09 September 2013 at 9:46am

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tarvos
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 Message 10 of 11
09 September 2013 at 3:05pm | IP Logged 
Everyone is guilty of unrealistic expectations. But it's only the ones that hold on to
them that succeed. Because they are the ones who showed the ambition and perseverance to
actually go for the unrealistic expectations and get somewhere close to 'em.


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pesahson
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 Message 11 of 11
10 September 2013 at 2:10pm | IP Logged 
I agree with Lakeseayasno about the false advertising that many language schools use to make people chose them. I don’t think it’s going to change any time soon so it makes school language classes even more important. Teachers have no intrest in lying about how long it takes to achieve fluency. They might be not motivating enough but that’s a different matter.

When it comes to language schools, something that 1e4e6 mentioned, I’m pretty sure the situation across Europe is rather good. I can’t be sure for all of Europe but it can’t be much worse than in Poland. There are cultural institutes (like Cervantes, Geothe, etc) and the level of teaching in those is usually really hight. And if you have the money, you can find a tutour for many many languages. If not in a language school, of which there are plenty, then many graduates of various philologies will be able to give private classes.

I’m actually pretty glad that I wasn’t born in an English speaking country in times when English is very important. I don’t think I would have been that motivated to learn any other language as a lazy teenager if not for this pressure. Now, I have a better understanding of what it takes to learn a language and I’m not prone to believing any miracle techiques.



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