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| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4853 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes  Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 1 of 6 10 February 2012 at 4:48pm | IP Logged | ||
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I'm experimenting with SRS flashcards at the moment and found out that reviewing all words in practice sentences
takes a long time and may therefore be a bit inefficient. But whereas learning nouns, adverbs and adjectives in isolation seems to work well, the same doesn't hold true for verbs. (Edit:) Verbs usually seem more context dependent and often have several meanings and they won't stick well in my memory if I study them in isolation. I'm wondering if you use different methods to memorize different word classes? Edited by druckfehler on 11 February 2012 at 12:30am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6688 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 2 of 6 10 February 2012 at 5:15pm | IP Logged | ||
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I use my wordlist layout for all wordclasses. However I sometimes put simple annotations at the words, and these will of course bedifferent from wordclass to wordclass. For instance you can mostly guess the aorist of a Greek verb if you are told one consonant in the ending, and it is not too much trouble to indicate that consonant. Likewise people who learn Germanic verbs will benefit from being told the past tense vowel of strong verbs (also because verbs without a vowel change will be weak). On the other hand people who learn German will benefit from marking the gender of substantives, and one graphical sign won't fill a lot of space on the paper.
druckfehler uses flashcards with example sentences, but as far as I can see this doesn't mean that different wordclasses behave differently. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4853 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 3 of 6 10 February 2012 at 8:14pm | IP Logged | ||
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Maybe it's just a problem I have with verbs in general, I'm not sure. I have trouble memorizing them both in Korean and in Hebrew, whereas nouns are relatively easy to remember. I can't remember having that problem with English, but then I learned most verbs in context by extensive reading. It's possible that my problem is that verbs often have a higher level of abstraction, or that they are defined by action instead of characteristic.
Do you find all word classes equally easy/difficult to memorize? And how do you handle verbs with many meanings? Do you only study one of the meanings per wordlist or do you study all of them at once? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| atama warui Triglot Senior Member Japan Joined 4686 days ago 594 posts - 985 votes Speaks: German*, English, Japanese | Message 4 of 6 10 February 2012 at 9:46pm | IP Logged | ||
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I also noticed that learning verbs in isolation is slower than nouns. Furtunately, a lot of Japanese verbs are actually nouns with a する attached, so if i just learn them as the nouns they originally are, I'm okay.
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| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4853 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 5 of 6 11 February 2012 at 12:29am | IP Logged | ||
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It doesn't seem to be a subjective preference. I just found another explanation for the difficulty of learning verns
in Kato Lomb's book "Polyglot. How I Learn Languages": "You can learn most easily nouns that refer to a specific object (house, window, book, pencil). Then come adjectives denot- ing perceptible properties (color, form, size). Then follow abstract nouns, and then verbs that express an easily imag- inable, specific action (run, give, bring). In my experience verbs expressing a symbolic action are the hardest to learn (complete, ensure, refer). Verbs are so far down this list because they constitute the word-class with the most changeable form." I think that warrants a different memorization technique for verbs, I just haven't found a really effective one yet. Any ideas? Edited by druckfehler on 11 February 2012 at 12:30am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5520 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese | Message 6 of 6 11 February 2012 at 12:58am | IP Logged | ||
I'm pretty much the exact opposite. Korean verbs/adjectives that come from Chinese roots (or from pretty much any other language, including English) are usually nouns with 하다 attached (or sometimes other verbs, but that one is the most common). Generally, I opt to learn those in verb/adjective form (then just mentally extrapolate the noun form if needed). Edited by Warp3 on 11 February 2012 at 1:05am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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