Everything Diglot Groupie France Joined 4635 days ago 87 posts - 167 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Spanish
| Message 1 of 11 11 February 2012 at 7:31pm | IP Logged |
Hi :)
So, I started to learn Korean 10 days ago with Pimsleur and Rosetta Stone. Korean is my
second foreign language that I learn after English. Learning English was mainly based
on listening because English and French (my mother tongue) are quite similar and use
the same alphabet. But, for Korean, it's quite different. I can read hangeul but very
slowly and when I first watch a Korean text, my eyes are lost. It looks like a big
drawing and my eyes fail to identify a word immediately. Generally, with English, when
I started, my eye used to to capture at least a word I've already seen. But it doesn't
work with Korean for now. I wonder what's the best method to learn how to read easily
(even without understanding what the sentences mean).
Thanks ! :)
Edited by Everything on 11 February 2012 at 7:32pm
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6843 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 2 of 11 11 February 2012 at 11:45pm | IP Logged |
Luckily our own Sprachprofi has written a few lessons:
http://www.learnlangs.com/RWP/Korean/index.htm
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Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5469 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese
| Message 3 of 11 12 February 2012 at 1:25am | IP Logged |
Two things will speed up your reading skills in Korean:
1) Read...a lot. The more practice you get reading 한글 blocks the more natural it will become. It *really* sucks at first, but eventually your brain will finally start to process Korean syllable blocks as a language, not just strings of letters that you have to struggle through.
2) Learn vocabulary. Part of the reason you can read so fast in your native language is because your brain can process entire words and phrases at once after seeing them frequently enough (rather than actually sounding out anything). In Korean, it can't do this yet, due to your lack of vocabulary.
If I knew I shortcut to either of those, I'd suggest one, but the only real answer I can offer is: "Keep at it and it does get better before you know it." When I first starting learning Korean, I watched a lot of music shows stage performances and would find myself pausing the video to read what was on screen then letting it continue. (For those of you not familiar with Korean music shows, they show the lyrics on-screen during the performances.) One day I was reading along with the lyrics during a music show and it suddenly hit me that I could finish them before they disappeared from the screen, which made me very happy.
One show that seems particularly useful for doing this is 도전 1000곡 (Challenge 1000 Songs). It is a karaoke-style game show featuring various celebrities as the competitors. Not only do they include the lyrics on-screen (like they do with music shows) but they are much larger which makes them far easier to read. I also like to use this show for Sino-Korean number practice since the participant calls out their number choice and then the camera shows the number being typed into the machine afterward.
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joyorbison Newbie United Kingdom Joined 4860 days ago 17 posts - 18 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean
| Message 4 of 11 12 February 2012 at 2:04pm | IP Logged |
I agree with what others have said but would like to add that it really helps if you can
find it 'fun'.
If you are in Korea, once you can read hangul then you can't stop yourself reading
everything. At least I couldn't. Reading English words transcribed into Korean on movie
posters etc. gave a great feeling. Also menus were a joy to read, "they do kimchi
and tuna ramyeon??". Just knuckle down and spend a couple of hours remembering the
sounds, then it should all be downhill as far as reading hangul is concerned.
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Everything Diglot Groupie France Joined 4635 days ago 87 posts - 167 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Spanish
| Message 5 of 11 13 February 2012 at 9:09am | IP Logged |
Quote:
One show that seems particularly useful for doing this is 도전 1000곡 (Challenge
1000 Songs). It is a karaoke-style game show featuring various celebrities as the
competitors. Not only do they include the lyrics on-screen (like they do with music
shows) but they are much larger which makes them far easier to read. I also like to use
this show for Sino-Korean number practice since the participant calls out their number
choice and then the camera shows the number being typed into the machine afterward.
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Awesome. Thanks :)
How to ? Should I buy a book like "Korean Essential Vocabulary for Beginners" ?
Edited by Everything on 13 February 2012 at 9:11am
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이희선 Groupie Australia Joined 4903 days ago 56 posts - 97 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian
| Message 6 of 11 13 February 2012 at 12:54pm | IP Logged |
Warp3 wrote:
If I knew I shortcut to either of those, I'd suggest one, but the only real answer I can offer is: "Keep at it and it
does get better before you know it." When I first starting learning Korean, I watched a lot of music shows stage
performances and would find myself pausing the video to read what was on screen then letting it continue. (For
those of you not familiar with Korean music shows, they show the lyrics on-screen during the performances.)
One day I was reading along with the lyrics during a music show and it suddenly hit me that I could finish them
before they disappeared from the screen, which made me very happy.
One show that seems particularly useful for doing this is 도전 1000곡 (Challenge 1000 Songs). It is a karaoke-
style game show featuring various celebrities as the competitors. Not only do they include the lyrics on-screen
(like they do with music shows) but they are much larger which makes them far easier to read. I also like to use
this show for Sino-Korean number practice since the participant calls out their number choice and then the
camera shows the number being typed into the machine afterward. |
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I was just going to say --- forcing yourself to read lyrics while at a 노래방 is a great way to challenge oneself in
reading - it goes soooo fast!
for Everything, Just keep reading a lot - at first it helps to read something that has a recording, or with someone
who knows Korean so you can confirm that you're putting the right sounds where they should be. As you become
able to accurately turn the hangeul into sounds and words, and as you learn vocabulary (but you don't have to
know every word to read quicker), your reading will become faster and faster. It will all continue to come together
to make you a better reader.
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Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5469 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese
| Message 7 of 11 14 February 2012 at 2:17am | IP Logged |
Everything wrote:
How to ? Should I buy a book like "Korean Essential Vocabulary for Beginners" ? |
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As I just posted a few minutes ago in your other thread, KEV6000 for Foreigners is ok, but I much prefer Survival Korean Vocabulary instead. (I own both and the latter is the better book by far.)
Even better, though, is to get vocabulary from whatever source interests you. Words that have meaning to you because of where you found them will be vastly easier to remember than words you randomly picked out of a vocabulary book. If Korean music interests you then look at song lyrics. K-dramas are tricky unless you luck out and find the script online, but Korean variety shows plaster text all over the screen. Find words that seem to appear quite frequently in your chosen source material and learn those. Then watch more and find more words that appear frequently then you didn't notice previously and learn those.
My vocabulary learning is a mix of tackling sections from SKV and noting words here and there from song lyrics, TV shows, movies, etc. Pulling words from the vocabulary book is efficient (especially since they are generally common words, so you should see them somewhat frequently), but the words you pull from context will have much more meaning behind them.
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Everything Diglot Groupie France Joined 4635 days ago 87 posts - 167 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Spanish
| Message 8 of 11 14 February 2012 at 9:36am | IP Logged |
What do you think about Survival Korean Basic Grammar Skills ?
Edited by Everything on 14 February 2012 at 9:36am
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