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Surtalnar Tetraglot Groupie Germany Joined 4395 days ago 52 posts - 67 votes Speaks: German*, Latin, English, Spanish Studies: Arabic (Written), Arabic (classical)
| Message 9 of 12 08 February 2013 at 8:17pm | IP Logged |
Yes, I pronounce both words different. (differently? - You can also help me improving my English :P) I think also the length of the first vocal is a touch different.
But for now I did understand the concept of the phonemes [z] and [s], I just confused those both, which led me to not hear the different sounds of [z] and [s].
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4706 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 10 of 12 08 February 2013 at 9:23pm | IP Logged |
Differently. It's an adverb here, and adverbs are always marked by -ly in English (except
for the few irregular ones). This is a mistake practically all Dutch and German people
make, because we do use adverbs, but we don't mark them (they are usually equivalent to
the base version of the adjective for us). It's one of those things everyone gets wrong
at school here.
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| Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4667 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali
| Message 11 of 12 08 February 2013 at 10:48pm | IP Logged |
Even in Austria and Bavaria, many people pronounce the intervocalic S as [z],
so the statement ''there is no [z] in cultivated Southern German'' is not true,
in words like ''Krise'' I only heard [z] in Munich.
(in Munich, people DO pronounce the word initial S voiceless [s]: sieben, sein...
but the intervocalic one is voiced [z]).
Edited by Medulin on 08 February 2013 at 10:49pm
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| mariasantiago1 Newbie United Kingdom Joined 4303 days ago 2 posts - 2 votes Speaks: English
| Message 12 of 12 12 February 2013 at 6:58pm | IP Logged |
To make the 's' sound in eyes you need to feel your throat 'vibrate'. That's the trick.
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