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songlines Pro Member Canada flickr.com/photos/cp Joined 5211 days ago 729 posts - 1056 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French Personal Language Map
| Message 9 of 15 26 June 2013 at 9:05am | IP Logged |
hanasea wrote:
I decided to learn French. I have wanted to learn French forever. I want to apply to the doctors without
borders as a nurse. My experience as a nurse is only three years. I need more time to be a good,
experienced nurse before I apply. It requires enough time. So I decided to learn French but couldn’t afford a
personal tutor. It is quite rare and expensive in South Korea. ....
Assimil is my main method. I will do one lesson a day, for passive phase. ...
Working in the ‘Doctors without borders’ is my ultimate dream. I want to speak and listen French with other
people to achieve that goal. Someday, after learning French with 18 or 24 months, I want to learn Spanish or
Italian with French Assimil book. It is such a future, I wonder when the times comes.
Also someday I want to read Le Petit Nicolas in French. I already read them in Korean. It is one of my favorite
story.
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Welcome to the forums, Hanasea. - Isn't Le Petit Nicolas delightful? - "Chouette" is the word that he
might himself use to describe his books!
When you're comfortable reading French books, you might like to try Chroniques Birmanes, by Guy
Delisle. http://guydelisle.fr/c_birmanes/ . Delisle's wife
worked/works for Médecins sans frontières; when she was posted to Burma/Myanmar, Delisle wrote about
their experiences there. I've written a short piece about it on my log, if you're interested:
post 196
As you can see from the extracts on Delisle's website, the language isn't too difficult.
Edited by songlines on 26 June 2013 at 9:07am
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| fezmond Groupie Korea, South Joined 4928 days ago 72 posts - 78 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean, French
| Message 10 of 15 26 June 2013 at 5:18pm | IP Logged |
Where are you in Korea, Hanasea?
I'm in Seoul, also trying to learn French. It's been a very lazy few months though
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| hanasea Diglot Newbie Korea, South agidark.tistory.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4191 days ago 15 posts - 20 votes Speaks: Korean*, EnglishC1 Studies: Japanese
| Message 11 of 15 27 June 2013 at 7:18am | IP Logged |
@songlines
Yes, Le Petit Nicolas is such an wonderful book! : ) Thank you for suggestions. I would like to read the books you recommended.
@fezmond
I am in Seoul, which is near Seocho/Gangnam. I think you might want to join “meet up” in Seoul. There are language-exchange meetings in Hongdae(Hongik University) and Gangnam. You can google it with ‘Language cast Seoul.’
What kind of method are you using, now? I would like to hear it!
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I am in Pimsleur I, 24. But I have no confidence with it. I can follow half of the lesson but have to hear answers! It does mean I can’t follow lessons, doesn’t it?
But I don’t want to go back yet. I am enjoying this and really want to finish the Pimsleur I within June. I will finish Pimsleur I in hurry and will review entire material.
With Assimil, it became more familiar routine with me. But I am not following original guide line any more. I am doing lesson 17 in Assimil New French with Ease. I listen Assimil lessons from 1 to 17(new lessons) for every day. It is very relaxing and I enjoying it very much. After that I repeat two or three times for today’s lesson. I don’t have much time to write down yet but I would like to start write down soon. Now the dialog become much longer, I should start.
I am in lesson 7 of Grammaire Pregrassive du Francais Niveau Debutant. This book is too difficult without any teacher and pre-grammar-knowledge. I would stop this book for a month and would like start again after I finished Pimsleur I,II,III or Assimil active phase. I cannot summon the knowledge that I did not learn.
I bought new Arsen Lupin book, it is also 40 page and with audio CD. I would like to write down this book, too.
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| fezmond Groupie Korea, South Joined 4928 days ago 72 posts - 78 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean, French
| Message 12 of 15 27 June 2013 at 8:14am | IP Logged |
Thanks for the advice on the meetups. I'm over by Edae so I can easily get to the
Hongdae one. Even though I've been learning on and off for about 6 months, my French is
still terrible and I'm too scared (and not good enough) to carry out a conversation.
I've been using Assimil New French With Ease but kinda finished it when I got to the
90s. I've used Michel Thomas, Pimsleur and Linguaphone. All are ok for certain things
but Pimsleur and Linguaphone don't give much in return for the amount of time you spend
on them. Just my opinion though.
French in Action is a good series. Workbook/studybook and an hour long video for each
week of the year.
I see you are also using Grammaire Progressive Debutant. I enjoyed this but as you
mentioned, without a teacher, some of the lessons can be tricky.
Good luck with your progress.
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| hanasea Diglot Newbie Korea, South agidark.tistory.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4191 days ago 15 posts - 20 votes Speaks: Korean*, EnglishC1 Studies: Japanese
| Message 13 of 15 01 July 2013 at 6:28pm | IP Logged |
Today is July First, 2013. I started learning French by myself in May 29. It is just very surprising to know that I have been doing this for over a month. Usually I start many things at once and quit. I am happy :D
I changed my method a bit.
First, my focus language builder changed to Assimil from Pimsleur. I still love Pimsleur. It just feels like a live human being. You know, In Pimsleur the teacher is actually talking to me. I really like to follow Pimsleur audio lessons’ lead. If there are Pimsleur 1, 2, 3 and 99, 100, 101, I would buy more.
But there is no more than 3 and 4, so I can’t buy!
I had to focus on Assimil because It became difficult. The lessons are now more longer and have more vocabularies.
I checked how many times I have heard the Assimil lesson. Now I can understand first 20 lessons (I cannot say it without listening it first) and familiar with next 15 lessons. Could you imagine how many times I listened them to understand them perfectly?
A hundred times!
It is so simple. Put efforts, there are results.
I cannot understand them until I listen 100 times. Oh god.
I can not listening one audio lesson for 100 times at once. As I already told, I am listening 20 lessons at once and resting a bit. And, listening 20 more lessons. After that, I am listening them one more time. This time I have book on my hands.
Well, When I am listening Japanese Audiobook for second or fourth time and it is quite easy to understand. Thus I have no right to argue…(But I really want to argue. 100 times!)
I found a French tutor. He studied teaching French in France University. It cost 60$ for an hour. It is expensive because of 1:1 course. : (
I guess I will hire him when I finish Assimil New French with Ease. Or I will not hire him anyway. He is expensive. I want to try French in Action but my bag is already enough with two courses ; )
Assimil 27/100
(Also I realized the Assimil course has more than 100 chapters)
Pimsleur I 27/30
(Yay!)
Audio Book :
Hachette; Adam Roy; Peur sur la ville 1/20
It was a very good lullaby. I fall in sleep. I can grasp 2 of the words. Well, I will do super challenge for French books. I may listen this book for 20 or 50 or 100 times. ; )
My boyfriend is jealous. He said I spend too much time with French learning. That’s true. I work full time, eight or nine hours a day, six days a week. And I spend three or four hours to learn French and one or two hours to learn Japanese for a month. We hardly talked.
So I would reduce my learning French hour a bit. Or Japanese.
Ah, I would mention my Japanese!
I finished SDA 3 Level Japanese course by myself. Now I am reviewing this from lesson 1. I am also doing Japanese Grammar book by myself. :D It also has an audio recording so easy to listen here and there!
Now I can read manga with dictionary. I can feel my Japanese level become better and better. I wrote simple essays on lang-8 in Japanese.
I have Japan elementary school books with audio. It is from first grade to sixth grade. Total six books! I listen and read them. A book is for once a day. It is quite easy and have good vocabularies. (Not fox, owl, bear… I have no interest about them! But they are quite common words in young-children-books anyway.)
In July I will go one-day trip with my boyfriend. We are looking for places. I promised him that I would not bring any French, Japanese, English, Korean books. Even audiobooks. I hope my brain does not forget them.
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| hanasea Diglot Newbie Korea, South agidark.tistory.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4191 days ago 15 posts - 20 votes Speaks: Korean*, EnglishC1 Studies: Japanese
| Message 14 of 15 11 July 2013 at 1:39am | IP Logged |
I am in a swamp. This swamp is greenish-black and deep. It called ‘The slump.’
Let me summery a little bit.
I am in Pimsleur II – fourth lesson. Assimil – 42 lessons (passive phase)
Grammer book – lesson 6. ( I stopped. It is too hard now)
Vocabulary trainer website – 17% of A2 level words.
I read & listened couple of French A1 level audio books. When I tried to listen it at first time, I couldn’t grasp
any of words, but now I can understand 20%~30% of it.
I watched five French movies with English subtitle. I watched it with my boyfriend, and had to English subtitle
for him. But I tried to close my eyes, so I can’t see the subtitle. Many times I had to ask him the story of
movie.
Assimil lesson was easy. But it isn’t now. It became too difficult for me. I can’t understand the lesson
anymore. I listen to new lessons for five or six time, and give up. I know I should listening to them more, but
listening them again and again left me very exhausted. Yesterday I listen to whole Assimil lessons from 2 to
43. I listened each 41, 42, 43 lesson for three times. It really eats me. I couldn’t stand up. I changed to
Pimsleur, and listened a lesson for twice a day.
I checked forum’s other logs. Everybody does great. I felt like a dumb. Maybe I did wrong? Am I doing too
much things?
Workload was too much. Normal days, I work eight hours a day. I had to work ten hours for two days
because there was too many admissions. After I went home, I lie still and see nothing. I close my eyes and
listen to Assimil lessons. My body become numb, I hear only Assimil lessons, first it sound like a human
being but after a few lessons its sound is just another noisy things.. I couldn’t understand anymore! Even
though I heard it seventy or sixty times already.
I listen to only Pimsleur II for two days. I am done with lesson 6 of the Pimsleur II. I hope I will be better in two
or three days.
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| ElComadreja Senior Member Philippines bibletranslatio Joined 7240 days ago 683 posts - 757 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Portuguese, Latin, Ancient Greek, Biblical Hebrew, Cebuano, French, Tagalog
| Message 15 of 15 30 July 2013 at 6:26pm | IP Logged |
Wow sounds like you need a break. Get away from it for a few days. Then come back and attack your plateau with full force :) It's completely normal.
I see this was a few weeks ago, where are you now?
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