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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5328 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes  Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 209 of 264 27 December 2014 at 11:28pm | IP Logged | |||||
Always happy to help :-) And you are definitely at basic fluency in Spanish 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Radioclare Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom timeofftakeoff.com Joined 4577 days ago 689 posts - 1119 votes Speaks: English*, German, Esperanto Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian | Message 210 of 264 28 December 2014 at 12:29am | IP Logged | |||||
Oh cool, I only just saw this! Well done :) I think it is definitely a bit generous with its ranking system - it told me I was C1 and all I could think was "If only!" It might be a good way to measure improvement though; I'm going to take it again at the end of 2015 if I remember and see if I can get it to tell me that I've reached C2 :D 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| iguanamon Pentaglot Senior Member Virgin Islands Speaks: Ladino Joined 5256 days ago 2241 posts - 6731 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, Haitian Creole, Creole (French) | Message 211 of 264 28 December 2014 at 12:45am | IP Logged | |||||
I've been seconded. She may be waiting for confirmation from Real Madrid :) Don't make me put you on a conference call with Luka Modric and James Rodriguez! I can't deal with coordinating time zones across half the world. Edited by iguanamon on 28 December 2014 at 1:24am 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6591 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 212 of 264 28 December 2014 at 1:43am | IP Logged | |||||
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Haha :D Okay, done, so that I could practise Croatian with Luka instead of Spanish :D
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6591 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 213 of 264 28 December 2014 at 1:50am | IP Logged | |||||
Well, I think the main issue is the multiple-choice format. I'd not be able to write almost any sentence where I correctly inserted the missing word. I think your productive skills are much better :) Also, language schools tend to base the levels on grammar, although really you should know most of it at B1-B2. The division is kinda artificial. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6591 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 214 of 264 28 December 2014 at 3:29am | IP Logged | |||||
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Thanks for the feedback, Cristina ♥ It's definitely more convincing to hear from someone who's actually spoken Spanish with me ;)
Ironically, today I read some more of "Breaking out of beginner's Spanish". (it's not as beginner-level as it sounds!!! highly recommended!) I also lost my Super Challenge streak although I did watch some videos on Miríada X last week. My Spanish profile lists pretty much all the steps I've taken to learn Spanish, but I thought I'd list the few books I've read so far: -Diego Forlán's biography. I think I started it in Finland in July 2011. I was relying purely on my Portuguese and it was hard. I finished reading it during the January 2012 Tadoku, with a much better comprehension by the end. -Two years later (Jan 2014) I signed up for a Tadoku with Finnish and Spanish again, out of nostalgy. I was missing them after the first Super Challenge (where I didn't do them)... But I realized that I didn't have anything I truly wanted to read in Spanish! This has been fixed ever since, but back then I just went through the public domain books I had on my e-reader, and I chose "El idilio de un enfermo". Nice old book. -I'm still reading Paulo Coelho's "Valquirias" but I expect to be done soon. Right now I'm on page 159 out of 219. I've been reading this book in bursts, cruising to the next "book-item" (50 pages) and then taking a break. Hoping to read it before the year ends. -I've also been reading a collection of Latin American fantasy stories, and I've read about one SC item by now. Of course, without my Portuguese (and Latin, and Italian) I would've needed much more reading to be anywhere near my current level. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6591 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 215 of 264 28 December 2014 at 4:05am | IP Logged | |||||
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I also feel like Spanish is where I've really grown as a language learner. I was filling my steps and chose "very efficient" for everything. I've known what I was doing. Hopefully I still do :D
For the record, I started watching football in Spanish in early 2009. I honestly tried to support Barcelona, no kidding :D I also started Italian around the same time (I even have an official starting date - April 6). Until 2012 I just kept absorbing it through football (as I mentioned above, I started reading my first book in July 2011). Before Euro-2012 I decided that I would do a 6WC in the language of the country that wins (unless it's England, France... or Russia :D). And Spain won. I watched Destinos and did random other stuff. A few months later I got a job where I would process the spam, and I did way more Spanish and Portuguese than I was expected to. Well, it was actually an internship, and it lasted until the autumn of 2013. So these were the key moments of my Spanish learning prior to 2014. Edited by Serpent on 28 December 2014 at 4:09am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| sans-serif Tetraglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4553 days ago 298 posts - 470 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, German, Swedish Studies: Danish | Message 216 of 264 10 January 2015 at 5:45pm | IP Logged | |||||
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(I thought about writing this in Finnish but decided on English instead, in case someone else happened to be interested. As a sidenote, it would be cool to speak Finnish with you sometime. I don't think I've ever had the pleasure.)
You mentioned in a recent post of yours (don't remember which thread this was) that you've been trying to make use of Swedish loanwords in your studies, but that you simply haven't come across very many. That got me thinking and so I spent about 30 minutes trying to come up with as many as I could. I'm not sure if this is useful or not, but since I already put in the time, I might as well share the fruits of my labor. I also added the English equivalents to the best of my ability. Note that in many cases the Finnish and Swedish meanings differ somewhat---this list mainly just demonstrates the connections between the words. I'd say there are two main reasons why these don't give a Finnish speaking Swedish learner a huge vocabulary discount: 1. a lot of them are words that Swedish shares with English, or 2. that are low-frequency and not very relevant for most learners. Calques tend to be much more useful, though in a more roundabout way. Anywhoo, the list: Home & hygiene kam - comb - kampa lakan - bedsheet - lakana tyyny - dyna - pillow/cushion såpa - soap - saippua säng - bed - sänky bänk - bench - penkki handske - glove - hanska hatt - hat - hattu ugn - oven - uuni skåp - closet/cabinet - kaappi Society, institutions, etc. kyrka - church - kirkko armé - army / military - armeija val - election - vaali hov - (royal) court - hovi kung - king - kuningas prins - prince - prinssi prinsessa - princess - prinsessa bank - bank - pankki torn - tower - torni vagn - wagon - vaunu kassa - cash register - kassa rat - council - raati mur - wall - muuri kammare - chamber - kamari/kammari Machines, technology and related verbs gevär - rifle - kivääri sikta - aim, sight - sihdata veva - turn a crank, weave - veivata backa - back up - pakittaa last - load - lasti pumpa - pump - pumppu karta - map - kartta ball - ball - pallo hiss - elevator - hissi paket - package - paketti raket - rocket - raketti mast - mast - masto Miscellaneous kasse - bag - kassi hyvel - plane - höylä skovel - shovel - (lumi)kola käpp - stick - keppi dreng - boy/farmhand - renki karg - barren/desolate - karu vika - fold - viikata kruka - pot - ruukku korp - raven - korppi tycka - like - tykätä fånge - captive/inmate - vanki ruta - screen - ruutu krut - gunpowder - ruuti skarp - sharp, quick-witted - skarppi lykta - lantern - lyhty riddare - knight - ritari sand - sand - santa strand - beach/shore - ranta ladugård - barn - lato nalle - bear - nalle knall - bang / cap (as in cap gun) - nalli skärm - screen - sermi skorpa - cracker - korppu bok - beech - pyökki pamp - magnate, a highly placed person - pamppu krapula - hangover - krapula mormor - grandmother - mummo farfar - grandfather - vaari stor - big, great - suuri skur - spell (of rain) - (sade)kuuro offer - victim/sacrifice - uhri hushåll - household - huusholli dans - dance - tanssi frakt - freight, shipping - rahti takt - pace - tahti jakt - hunt, chase - jahti makt - power - mahti våld - violence / power - valta vakt - watch - vahti fara - danger - vaara helvete - hell - helvetti kapa - hijack - kaapata Edited by sans-serif on 10 January 2015 at 6:37pm 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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