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| vanityx3 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6459 days ago 331 posts - 326 votes  1 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Spanish, Japanese | Message 441 of 489 02 February 2008 at 9:40pm | IP Logged | |||||
I've used it to learn more French than I already did. It seems to work, I've only done it for a week, and I can understand many things now I wouldn't have only a week ago. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6595 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 442 of 489 03 February 2008 at 1:16am | IP Logged | |||||
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 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6907 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 443 of 489 03 February 2008 at 7:08am | IP Logged | |||||
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To me it is quite the opposite. I read a page in one minute (more or less), and I have yet to hear a narrator reading aloud at that speed. So for me, it is more a problem of slowing down my reading (even after just a few minutes of reading I'm several pages ahead of the audio).
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| Asiafeverr Diglot Senior Member Hong Kong Joined 6340 days ago 346 posts - 431 votes 1 sounds Speaks: French*, English Studies: Mandarin, Cantonese, Shanghainese, German | Message 444 of 489 03 February 2008 at 7:46am | IP Logged | |||||
There are many softwares that can speed up and/or slow down the speech speed of a recording. You can speed up the tempo with Audacity and it won't change the voice. Edited by Asiafeverr on 03 February 2008 at 9:05am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6673 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 445 of 489 03 February 2008 at 9:32am | IP Logged | |||||
I systematically do the same. The first time I listen an audiobook I use the normal speed, but if I listen again, I use Audacity to speed up the audio. In fact is more exposition per hour. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| atamagaii Senior Member Anguilla Joined 6204 days ago 181 posts - 195 votes Speaks: Apache* | Message 446 of 489 04 February 2008 at 5:52am | IP Logged | |||||
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There are two kinds of pronunciation mistakes:
1. phonematic – affecting the meaning, eg. sh i t instead of sheet 2. simply phonetic, sounding foreign but not affecting the meaning, eg. pussy with "p" without aspiration The first kind is to be avoided at all costs. Is good pronunciation important at all? It affects your listening skills, your speaking skills, your spelling and your reading. It affects your motivation and psychological well-being. It's ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL. Is good pronunciation difficult to achieve? NO. If you get down to it properly. 1. Do not speak, do not write, (and do not read without listening) until you've reached the stage of natural listening 2. practise some phonetic listening 3. repeat after the acto(r) only when you fully understand what is being said and you hear the sounds, tones, rythm etc properly 4. avoid NEGATIVE exposure: non-native speakers and fellow students (garbage in, garbage out) 5. do not "charge" at difficult sounds, words etc, do not try to repeat them at all costs, concentrate on what is positive: easy and pleasant. 6. do not blind-shadow (see 5.) It usually takes about 30 to 40 hours of active phonetic study to be able to repeat absolutely correctly simple phrases and short sentences. I coached home schooled children and teenagers for twenty years (hundreds of them, in a dozen foreign languages) learning entirely on their own. I was a source of learning materials and some occasional advice. The above was almost always true. ERRRRORS 1. learning - avoid them 2. using (communication) - do not be afraid of them Edited by atamagaii on 04 February 2008 at 6:12am 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6673 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 447 of 489 04 February 2008 at 8:44am | IP Logged | |||||
What do you recommend to people with near native reading skills, but basic listening skills? How can you adapt your method to them, so that they become near native listening too? 1 person has voted this message useful |
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