cymro Triglot Groupie Wales Joined 6446 days ago 76 posts - 98 votes Speaks: English*, Welsh, French Studies: Italian, Spanish, Latin, Ancient Greek
| Message 33 of 55 19 October 2009 at 1:44am | IP Logged |
An important feature of an MP3 player is its ability to record.I have been revising hard for a Latin exam that I had last week and I found the ability of my mp3 player to record invaluable. I had over 70 short recordings I had prepared on the machine which were useful as I could construct them as I wanted them.
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habadzi Super Polyglot Senior Member Greece Joined 5566 days ago 70 posts - 106 votes Speaks: Greek*, Spanish, Portuguese, Romanian, Hindi, French, German, Italian, Ancient Greek, Modern Hebrew, Arabic (classical), Indonesian, Bengali, Albanian, Nepali
| Message 34 of 55 19 October 2009 at 4:31am | IP Logged |
Audio is always a very efficient way to learn a language, even when it's "dead". When I study languages I make audio notes of the points I want to remember and then play them back to myself (even if my accent is not perfect). It's very good for memory consolidation.
Many mp3 players record, but they are not the big sellers in the US. Tsonic 630 (or later) is ok, and it slows down the voice. Unfortunately mp3 players will make multiple files if you do anything but stop temporarily. One wants a continuous record, not 70 little files to be put together later through software. I don't know whether digital recorders create one file or multiples, but the easiest solution for me is to use the old style analog tape recorders (a sony with a slow-down button is still sold at office depot for $30). You can digitize those any time.
Forever usable for that
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cymro Triglot Groupie Wales Joined 6446 days ago 76 posts - 98 votes Speaks: English*, Welsh, French Studies: Italian, Spanish, Latin, Ancient Greek
| Message 35 of 55 19 October 2009 at 10:32am | IP Logged |
My mp3 player doesn't work like that. It has buttons to start and stop recording. It is not voice activated. I have the 70 small files for a reason. Each one contains a table that I need to learn like "hic haec hoc" etc. It can repeat a single file on a loop.
So I will, whist walking to the shops or something, repeat a loop 20 times or so mentally following it or even repeating it quietly out loud. I will then advance to the next track. My files aren't named but do display with a number on the screen and can be scrolled through backwards and forwards as they play.
Edited by cymro on 19 October 2009 at 10:56am
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Rikyu-san Diglot Senior Member Denmark Joined 5520 days ago 213 posts - 413 votes Speaks: Danish*, English Studies: German, French
| Message 36 of 55 23 October 2009 at 10:27am | IP Logged |
I would like to take all the inputs in this thread and place it in the first post so that all your input is organized in an orderly manner and so that it is easy to find the information one needs. If more posts are coming in, I can then update the first post so that it is up-to-date. Would that be useful?
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simonov Senior Member Portugal Joined 5581 days ago 222 posts - 438 votes Speaks: English
| Message 37 of 55 23 October 2009 at 12:49pm | IP Logged |
Rikyu-san wrote:
I would like to take all the inputs in this thread and place it in the first post so that all your input is organized in an orderly manner and so that it is easy to find the information one needs. If more posts are coming in, I can then update the first post so that it is up-to-date. Would that be useful? |
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Very useful indeed.
I just could not imagine learning languages without an mp3 player, and some of the information contained in this thread is very helpful when we decide to get a new player, a second one or a better one.
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cymro Triglot Groupie Wales Joined 6446 days ago 76 posts - 98 votes Speaks: English*, Welsh, French Studies: Italian, Spanish, Latin, Ancient Greek
| Message 38 of 55 23 October 2009 at 1:40pm | IP Logged |
Rikyu-san wrote:
I would like to take all the inputs in this thread and place it in the first post so that all your input is organized in an orderly manner and so that it is easy to find the information one needs. If more posts are coming in, I can then update the first post so that it is up-to-date. Would that be useful? |
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Good idea. For info my mp3 player can record tracks from the inbuilt microphone
and repeat tracks on a loop and easily advance them. It has a screen too and is inexpensive.
This is the salient page on the website of the shop from which it came.
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5139275/Tra il/searchtext%3EMP3+PLAYER.htm
Edited by cymro on 23 October 2009 at 3:03pm
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tommus Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5858 days ago 979 posts - 1688 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Dutch, French, Esperanto, German, Spanish
| Message 39 of 55 23 October 2009 at 3:08pm | IP Logged |
Proprietary software or simple file transfer?
I find it inconvenient to use MP3 players that require their own software to manage the audio files. I currently use a Sony MP3 player and although it has great audio and great battery life, I don't like having to use SonicStage to load and unload audio files. I'd prefer the MP3 player to appear as just part of the file system, so I could just drag and drop the files. I change them daily (news, etc.). It is always a pain to mess with SonicStage. I think the conversions significantly slow down the transfer. SonicStage must be on every computer you use to load the MP3 player. I don't have SonicStage on my Linux laptop. I don't know if there is a Linux version. Usually you don't discover that the MP3 player uses proprietary software until after you buy it (hidden in the small print).
Anyone recommend an MP3 player that uses a simple file system (drag and drop)?
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Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5527 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese
| Message 40 of 55 23 October 2009 at 3:58pm | IP Logged |
Tommus: I do know that the newer iPods are *not* storage class devices (i.e. they don't show up as drives) as this is why they don't work with the Xbox 360 even though the older iPods (which were storage class devices) do. So, theoretically, any Xbox 360 compatible MP3 player should be storage class (except maybe the Zune since MS owns both technologies, so you may have to verify that one separately).
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