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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5372 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes  Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 9 of 26 22 May 2012 at 1:15pm | IP Logged | |||||
Just about every ... native speaker you know? I hope that's not what you meant or else I'd fear you're also suggesting we stop teaching languages altogether. 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5526 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese | Message 10 of 26 22 May 2012 at 3:09pm | IP Logged | |||||
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After watching this video yesterday, I noticed I was paying extra attention to the pitch of the words during my Pimsleur lesson this morning. I had already noticed a bit of a "melody" to Japanese (that I had already been attempting to emulate somewhat), but hadn't quite put my finger on the details until I watched this video. Now when I hear words like すこし(sukoshi) rise then fall in pitch, the pitch pattern catches my attention and I try to remember to emulate it next time I say that word.
どもありがとうございます！ 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5372 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 11 of 26 22 May 2012 at 3:37pm | IP Logged | |||||
Thank you! That's exactly the kind of thing I was hoping would happen! To me, this reinforces the idea that people don't just pick it up without a formal explanation -- only when you understand what you are looking for can you actually start picking it up from listening. I realize that's the essence of what ericspinelli was saying -- watch this video then pick it up on your own -- except that this is only the beginning and there are many irregularities and shifts that occur and that are worth learning about too. I hope to tackle those soon. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| jdmoncada Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 5025 days ago 470 posts - 741 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Finnish Studies: Russian, Japanese | Message 12 of 26 22 May 2012 at 9:29pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I enjoyed the video very much. Your explanations are very clear, and I especially liked the way you described the difference between things haSHIGA and haSHIga.
I understand how it works intellectually, but I still don't know how to actually DO it physically. I just I might have to record myself speaking to hear if I can emulate the proper sounds. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4656 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese | Message 13 of 26 22 May 2012 at 11:19pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Thanks for posting this now and not two years from now when I'll have a great deal more
to unlearn :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Camundonguinho Triglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 4740 days ago 273 posts - 500 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English, Spanish Studies: Swedish | Message 14 of 26 23 May 2012 at 9:30am | IP Logged | |||||
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Great video, I don't know why language courses and professors ''hide'' the pitch accent from us, learners...
No wonder the Japanese (and Norwegians) say things like: you can learn our language for 20 years or more, and but you will never get our speech melody right. It's always easy to put the blame on students. How about putting more stress on pitch (in both Japanese and Norwegian)? Edited by Camundonguinho on 23 May 2012 at 9:30am 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Wulfgar Senior Member United States Joined 4662 days ago 404 posts - 791 votes Speaks: English* | Message 15 of 26 23 May 2012 at 9:33am | IP Logged | |||||
I agree with this comment. But don't you find that the teacher in this video is over pronouncing the intonation? I think just being aware of it, including emulating native speakers whenever possible is a better course than formal studies. For Japanese. For Chinese, I think formal studies are better. Edited by Wulfgar on 23 May 2012 at 9:36am 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5372 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 16 of 26 23 May 2012 at 5:13pm | IP Logged | |||||
It isn't impossible that, in an effort to make the pitch clearer and easier to perceive, I might have exaggerated the pronuncation of some words. If you know any native speaker who can watch the video and comment on the Youtube channel, please encourage them to do so. Edited by Arekkusu on 23 May 2012 at 5:48pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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