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Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7159 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish
| Message 9 of 26 19 July 2012 at 8:43pm | IP Logged |
druckfehler wrote:
I would be especially interested in which languages have the most free learning materials available on the internet. There's a lot for Mandarin and Korean - in fact, I think it would be possible to study those languages without buying a single book/language course.
I wonder if that's because they have a reputation for being very difficult languages, as there's a lot of material made available by universities and language students who want to help with this challenge... But maybe its similar for other languages and I'm just not so aware of it, because I'm not focusing on them. For European Portuguese, Hebrew and Persian I have found much less, though. |
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One place to start would be unzum's site although I know that he doesn't include everything that's free and legal for learning some languages that I'm studying (e.g. Hungarian, Polish, Slovak, Ukrainian).
Druckfehler, why don't we make this a bit of a collaborative project? Some of the language profiles here already contain links to free and legal learning material, and so we could start with those languages, and then count and assess what's available legally online for free for a couple dozen other languages (provided that others help), which don't have profiles or whose profiles aren't beneficiaries of thorough research into available online material.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6600 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 10 of 26 19 July 2012 at 9:34pm | IP Logged |
Gorgoll2 wrote:
@Serpent: I guess I realize why is Polish so common: There´s strong Polish immigration to Ireland. |
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I know, yes. But are Irishmen really learning Polish because of that?
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| Gorgoll2 Senior Member Brazil veritassword.blogspo Joined 5149 days ago 159 posts - 192 votes Speaks: Portuguese*
| Message 11 of 26 19 July 2012 at 10:17pm | IP Logged |
@Serpent: I honestly don´t know. But I think it´s a rather aditional reason to learn a
language - Talking with friends or lovers. I also find Russian should have more resources
than Polish. But the EU has rather strange politics of support to immigration.
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| embici Triglot Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4613 days ago 263 posts - 370 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French Studies: Greek
| Message 12 of 26 20 July 2012 at 12:34am | IP Logged |
At the average Canadian bookstore I'd say the largest number of materials are for ESL,
probably given the large number of immigrants and international students.
This is followed by French.
Then my best estimate is: Spanish, Italian and Mandarin.
Edited by embici on 20 July 2012 at 12:37am
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6600 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 13 of 26 20 July 2012 at 12:48am | IP Logged |
Gorgoll2 wrote:
Talking with friends or lovers. |
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Good point.
I didn't mean Russian deserves to have more resources than Polish or something like this, it's a wonderful language and I love it. I'm just fairly sure that the availability in stores in UK&Ireland doesn't reflect the overall amount of resources for English native speakers or especially for speakers of other languages (what about Portuguese for example?)
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| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4871 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian
| Message 14 of 26 20 July 2012 at 11:20pm | IP Logged |
Chung wrote:
One place to start would be unzum's site although I know that he doesn't include everything that's free and legal for learning some languages that I'm studying (e.g. Hungarian, Polish, Slovak, Ukrainian). |
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True, he has collected many very useful and hard-to-find resources for many eastern languages. I have noticed that quite a few links are no longer working and he missed some of the really good resources (maybe they sprung up later). Links4languages also seems fairly good.
Chung wrote:
Druckfehler, why don't we make this a bit of a collaborative project? Some of the language profiles here already contain links to free and legal learning material, and so we could start with those languages, and then count and assess what's available legally online for free for a couple dozen other languages (provided that others help), which don't have profiles or whose profiles aren't beneficiaries of thorough research into available online material. |
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This is a great idea, but seems like a massive amount of work. Even for one language it takes quite a lot of time, as I noticed when I compiled materials for studying Samoan in my Polynesian log. If we want to cover a decent amount of languages I guess it would only be feasible if we get a lot of contributors - that way it's also easier to make the list comprehensive. Luckily, there are quite a few threads on HTLAL that already include such lists...
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| Gorgoll2 Senior Member Brazil veritassword.blogspo Joined 5149 days ago 159 posts - 192 votes Speaks: Portuguese*
| Message 15 of 26 23 July 2012 at 6:18pm | IP Logged |
@Serpent: As long I know, Britishmen aren´t able linguists. Portuguese-speaking Brits
tend to speak with a strong European accent. English schools aren´t the problem: They
teach the 16 EU languages, plus Japanese, Arabic, Russian and Urdu. I find the problem is
rather cultural: UK never accepted it´s no more the leading power - Please, forgive me
Englishmen.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6600 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 16 of 26 23 July 2012 at 8:51pm | IP Logged |
Russia isn't happy with accepting that either but we don't get very far with Russian :) So those who don't want to resort to gestures while travelling try to learn at least some English. Englishmen on the other hand can get by in many places.
I also meant that are there more resources for Russian than for Polish in Portuguese? Although one of the first texts I read in PT was about a guy named João who's learning Russian and Polish, I don't think the latter is actually learned by many in Portugal or especially Brazil? (well, many people from Portugal probably learned some basic Polish before Euro-2012;))
Edited by Serpent on 23 July 2012 at 8:52pm
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