tommus Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5864 days ago 979 posts - 1688 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Dutch, French, Esperanto, German, Spanish
| Message 65 of 509 03 January 2010 at 4:36pm | IP Logged |
FAQ-NL: Meaning of 'Lang niet alle winters'?
With the cold weather in The Netherlands, there is increasing expectation of a possible Elfstedentocht this year (the 11-town skating race on natural ice).
The Wikipedia article includes the following sentence: 'Lang niet alle winters wordt de tocht gehouden'. The sentence generally means 'The race (or trip) has not been held every winter'. But that could be written something like 'Niet alle winters wordt de tocht gehouden' To me, the meaning 'Lang' is not clear. It could mean 'for a long time', or maybe 'along' or something like 'over the long term'.
Could a native Dutch-language speaker comment on this usage of 'lang'?
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elvisrules Tetraglot Senior Member BelgiumRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5467 days ago 286 posts - 390 votes Speaks: French, English*, Dutch, Flemish Studies: Lowland Scots, Japanese, German
| Message 66 of 509 03 January 2010 at 4:46pm | IP Logged |
You also have 'het accident' :D, so 3 words to confuse!
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Vinbelgium Bilingual Tetraglot Groupie Belgium Joined 5822 days ago 61 posts - 73 votes Speaks: Dutch*, Flemish*, English, French Studies: Spanish, Russian
| Message 67 of 509 03 January 2010 at 5:10pm | IP Logged |
tommus wrote:
FAQ-NL: Meaning of 'Lang niet alle winters'?
Could a native Dutch-language speaker comment on this usage of 'lang'?
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It's difficult to translate this into English. It does not mean 'for a long time', 'along' or 'over the long term'.
I looked it up in my Van Dale. It means 'far from, not nearly'.
Lang niet elke winter = far from every winter
I hope it helps!
EDIT: Here in Flanders we usually say 'belange nie!' Maybe it's interesting to know, when you're talking with some Flemish.
Edited by Vinbelgium on 04 January 2010 at 8:47am
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tommus Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5864 days ago 979 posts - 1688 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Dutch, French, Esperanto, German, Spanish
| Message 68 of 509 03 January 2010 at 8:35pm | IP Logged |
Vinbelgium wrote:
I looked it up in my Van Dale. It means 'far from, not nearly'.
Lang niet elke winter = far from every winter |
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OK. Thanks. Now it makes perfect sense, since it occurs very infrequently, only 15 times since it started in 1909. The last one was 1997.
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elvisrules Tetraglot Senior Member BelgiumRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5467 days ago 286 posts - 390 votes Speaks: French, English*, Dutch, Flemish Studies: Lowland Scots, Japanese, German
| Message 69 of 509 03 January 2010 at 8:39pm | IP Logged |
Vinbelgium wrote:
EDIT: Here in Flanders we usually say 'belange nie!' Maybe it's interesting to know, when you're talking with a Flemish. |
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Het woord is 'Fleming'. :P
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Vinbelgium Bilingual Tetraglot Groupie Belgium Joined 5822 days ago 61 posts - 73 votes Speaks: Dutch*, Flemish*, English, French Studies: Spanish, Russian
| Message 70 of 509 03 January 2010 at 9:31pm | IP Logged |
elvisrules wrote:
Vinbelgium wrote:
EDIT: Here in Flanders we usually say 'belange nie!' Maybe it's interesting to know, when you're talking with a Flemish. |
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Het woord is 'Fleming'. :P |
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Check Wikipedia: The Flemish or Flemings. Het zijn synoniemen.
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Aucassin Diglot Newbie United States Joined 5491 days ago 22 posts - 25 votes Speaks: English*, French
| Message 71 of 509 04 January 2010 at 2:31am | IP Logged |
"Flemish" is fine, but only in the plural, like your example. "Fleming" can be singular or plural.
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elvisrules Tetraglot Senior Member BelgiumRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5467 days ago 286 posts - 390 votes Speaks: French, English*, Dutch, Flemish Studies: Lowland Scots, Japanese, German
| Message 72 of 509 04 January 2010 at 11:32am | IP Logged |
OK I apologize, just sounds strange to me.
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