ManicGenius Senior Member United States Joined 5481 days ago 288 posts - 420 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Esperanto, French, Japanese
| Message 17 of 34 07 May 2010 at 7:47pm | IP Logged |
lynxrunner wrote:
I believe it has more to do with the people who "learn" Japanese to be able to say "super mega crystal of power" in Japanese because it shows up in their favorite anime, say things like "kawaii ^_^" where it is unnecessary, and just talk about how Japan is basically the best thing ever. |
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Oooohhh. Ok. People still misconstrued me then. Yeah there were a few of those types when I took a class in Japanese, though people still thought of me as a "weaboo" even though I never once acted like that. I rarely, if ever, tell people I can speak decent Japanese. Though apparently, seeing me walk into an anime club meeting immediately got me labeled as such.
Weird.
At least I dont ever say "Kawaii"/"Fighto"/etc. But Pocari Sweat is good. I do use the O.o face because I think it's funny.
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vilas Pentaglot Senior Member Italy Joined 6960 days ago 531 posts - 722 votes Speaks: Spanish, Italian*, English, French, Portuguese
| Message 18 of 34 08 May 2010 at 9:35am | IP Logged |
GauchoBoaCepa wrote:
As my favourite accent is the "porteño" and being a southern (my homestate has border with Argentina just being the southernmost one), sometimes the result isn't good....people stare at you as though you were a twat.
Nowadays whoever speaks Spanish here in Brazil is still seen as "cucaracha", leftist, a fella who licks Argentinian boots.
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In 2008 King Juan Carlos of Spain gave to Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, the Don Quixote Award, established by his efforts to promote Spanish language and culture.
Lula da Silva was honored by his decision to make the Castilian language compulsory in public schools in Brazil since 2006.
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Luai_lashire Diglot Senior Member United States luai-lashire.deviant Joined 5828 days ago 384 posts - 560 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto Studies: Japanese, French
| Message 19 of 34 08 May 2010 at 5:53pm | IP Logged |
lynxrunner wrote:
ManicGenius wrote:
Oh god I hate that term. Along with wapanese. Wow... so you're gonna degrade
someone because they have an interest in another culture? Pathetic. |
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I believe it has more to do with the people who "learn" Japanese to be able to say
"super mega crystal of power" in Japanese because it shows up in their favorite anime,
say things like "kawaii ^_^" where it is unnecessary, and just talk about how Japan is
basically the best thing ever.
It's applied to people who aren't actually interested in learning culture. There's a
reason the anime fan is so derided in Japanese classes, and that's because they only
come in the first year to learn how to say "FIGHT". People who actually learn about
Japanese culture and language are way more respected (Tomato on the MOTHER 3 board.
Need I say more?). |
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Yeah... supposedly. But when is it ever actually used that way? I know of people who meet your description,
and I also know a lot of serious Japanese learners (nearly all of whom, btw, like anime and sushi). Generally the
term weeaboo gets applied equally to all of them. What you described is what the term was originally supposed
to mean, but like all insults, it's become more and more generalized because people use it to put down anyone
they don't like, regardless of how well it actually fits them. Now it just means, "anyone who likes anything
Japanese, who I find annoying or just dislike".
Usually the people who are serious learners who hate this term hate it because it's used to lump them into a
group with the "OMG KAWAII!!!" types, who serious learners generally despise.
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lynxrunner Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States crittercryptics.com Joined 5922 days ago 361 posts - 461 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French Studies: Russian, Swedish, Haitian Creole
| Message 20 of 34 08 May 2010 at 7:34pm | IP Logged |
Luai_lashire wrote:
Yeah... supposedly. But when is it ever actually used that way?
I know of people who meet your description,
and I also know a lot of serious Japanese learners (nearly all of whom, btw, like anime
and sushi). Generally the
term weeaboo gets applied equally to all of them. What you described is what the term
was originally supposed
to mean, but like all insults, it's become more and more generalized because people use
it to put down anyone
they don't like, regardless of how well it actually fits them. Now it just means,
"anyone who likes anything
Japanese, who I find annoying or just dislike". |
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I find that odd... I've never heard someone serious about Japanese called a "weaboo" or
a "wapanese". In fact, I know serious Japanese learners who use those very terms
against the "OMG KAWAII" type of Japanese learner. It's probably a difference in
experience.
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ManicGenius Senior Member United States Joined 5481 days ago 288 posts - 420 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Esperanto, French, Japanese
| Message 21 of 34 08 May 2010 at 10:37pm | IP Logged |
Lump me into the serious learners who look down on the "OMG KAWAII" group, but get's
lumped in with them by others.
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GauchoBoaCepa Triglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5419 days ago 172 posts - 199 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English, Spanish
| Message 22 of 34 09 May 2010 at 6:38pm | IP Logged |
vilas wrote:
GauchoBoaCepa wrote:
As my favourite accent is the "porteño" and being a southern (my homestate has border with Argentina just being the southernmost one), sometimes the result isn't good....people stare at you as though you were a twat.
Nowadays whoever speaks Spanish here in Brazil is still seen as "cucaracha", leftist, a fella who licks Argentinian boots.
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In 2008 King Juan Carlos of Spain gave to Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, the Don Quixote Award, established by his efforts to promote Spanish language and culture.
Lula da Silva was honored by his decision to make the Castilian language compulsory in public schools in Brazil since 2006.
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Sorry buddy, but few schools have adopted Spanish so far....his efforts to promote the language have been in vain.
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GauchoBoaCepa Triglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5419 days ago 172 posts - 199 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English, Spanish
| Message 23 of 34 15 May 2010 at 9:34pm | IP Logged |
what's wrong embracing other countries' culture as the result of the study of any language.
Edited by GauchoBoaCepa on 15 May 2010 at 9:37pm
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furrykef Senior Member United States furrykef.com/ Joined 6472 days ago 681 posts - 862 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Japanese, Latin, Italian
| Message 24 of 34 16 May 2010 at 12:17am | IP Logged |
Japanese learner here. I haven't been called "weeaboo" as far as I can recall and certainly not "wapanese", but people online have, surprisingly, expressed annoyance at the fact that I'm learning Japanese. I mention in some context or other that I'm learning Japanese and they basically say, "Oh, no, not you too." I guess it's because they think I'm doing it because it's trendy, when, really, if that were my reason, I'd have given up years ago.
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