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| viedums Hexaglot Senior Member Thailand Joined 4667 days ago 327 posts - 528 votes  Speaks: Latvian, English*, German, Mandarin, Thai, French Studies: Vietnamese | Message 9 of 18 29 September 2012 at 3:57am | IP Logged |
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morsure
A French noun meaning ‘bite, corrosion’ etc. Is it in French or some other Romance language that it also means a petty bribe? The link here is the suffix, which derives from the Latin past participle. I initially thought of ‘Abitur’ in German (meaning graduation), but that seems to be a false etymology. Here’s a link for checking word derivations: Online Etymology Dictionary 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Kartof Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5067 days ago 391 posts - 550 votes Speaks: English*, Bulgarian*, Spanish Studies: Danish | Message 10 of 18 29 September 2012 at 4:16am | IP Logged |
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Morsure in French comes from the Latin verb "mordere" which means to bite.
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| Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6583 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German | Message 11 of 18 29 September 2012 at 5:41pm | IP Logged |
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Haha, fun, this thread is alive again! Okay, I'm gonna go to Latin remordere, meaning "to torment", literally "to bite again"! That leaves anyone who wishes to continue with a very easy "re" prefix!
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| vermillon Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4679 days ago 602 posts - 1042 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, German | Message 12 of 18 29 September 2012 at 6:12pm | IP Logged |
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Well, "re-" would be too easy, but I'll go with even easier and hopefully not a dead-end as we stay with the same root.
Remorse (coming from remordere through Old French). That leaves re- if anyone is blocked... 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6583 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German | Message 13 of 18 29 September 2012 at 6:49pm | IP Logged |
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Just to give the next one a bit more to choose from, I'll add on a suffix to that to get remorseful.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 14 of 18 29 September 2012 at 9:59pm | IP Logged |
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The Spanish and Portuguese almorzar/almoçar come from this root as well, with a possible influence from Arabic. admordere means to bite or gnaw at something. I have to admit I only noticed it when I came across the Spanish word, already knowing it in Portuguese.
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| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4845 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 15 of 18 01 October 2012 at 6:30pm | IP Logged |
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Mordent (German)
'musical embellishment in which a note quickly alternates with its lower neighbour note' - comes from Latin mordere as well and literally means 'the biting one'. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| viedums Hexaglot Senior Member Thailand Joined 4667 days ago 327 posts - 528 votes Speaks: Latvian, English*, German, Mandarin, Thai, French Studies: Vietnamese | Message 16 of 18 02 October 2012 at 4:22am | IP Logged |
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According to myEtymology.com, the root in mordere derives from the Proto-IE *mer- “death”. Of course this root is a familiar one in many IE languages, so I’d like to move away from Latin into a different branch. Hope this isn’t bending the rules too badly.
Nemirstīgs is Latvian for “immortal”. The word has three elements : the negative prefix ne-, the stem –mirt- “death” and the suffix –īgs/-īga making it an adjective. I’m fairly sure this suffix is cognate with German –ig as in “lebendig”. So any of these elements could be the basis for a new derivation. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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