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Alkeides Senior Member Bhutan Joined 6150 days ago 636 posts - 644 votes
| Message 41 of 69 18 November 2008 at 11:01am | IP Logged |
不良外人 has returned. I wonder if he has done that 3-week Ancient Greek he went on about.
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| jimbo baby! Senior Member United States Joined 5979 days ago 202 posts - 208 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English*
| Message 42 of 69 18 November 2008 at 2:14pm | IP Logged |
Marc Frisch and !LH@N have been very helpful to me. I also like reading through the Professor's posts and his videos have been extremely helpful.
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| gogglehead Triglot Senior Member Argentina Joined 6077 days ago 248 posts - 320 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Russian, Italian
| Message 43 of 69 19 November 2008 at 3:45am | IP Logged |
To break the golden rule yet again, I think that everyone on here has been helpful in their own way.
From every angle we have seen a spectrum of learning techniques, adapted by the user themselves for their own specific learning needs, and for these methods we have had detailed descriptions and recommendations of a plethora of learning products that have been tried and tested, the results visible here on these very pages.
Also, for every beginners question to which we can all relate, or have related at some point in our language learning careers, there have been prompt and definite answers and suggestions, which may never have arisen if the beginners themselves had not asked.
I know that, in my own case, I would have given up language learning long ago had I not stumbled into this forum, which has provided me with so many insights and help, and encouragement in times when I thought of giving up.
There are many members that shine out, too many to name even if I were allowed :-), but I personally would like to thank Francois for creating the site, and making me realise, for the first time, that I am far from alone in my passion for languages. Indeed, it is our united interest in a common subject that has achieved what is, for many (including me), the main goal of learning languages, to remove the boundaries of race, religion and geography, and gain a better understanding of the diverse cultures of our world. Yes, this site is on my favourites list.
Three cheers for the Administrator!
G
Edited by gogglehead on 19 November 2008 at 3:53am
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| ExtraLean Triglot Senior Member France languagelearners.myf Joined 5996 days ago 897 posts - 880 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish Studies: German
| Message 44 of 69 19 November 2008 at 3:51am | IP Logged |
hip hip, hooray!
Thom
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| charlmartell Super Polyglot Senior Member Portugal Joined 6246 days ago 286 posts - 298 votes Speaks: French, English, German, Luxembourgish*, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian, Dutch, Italian, Latin, Ancient Greek Studies: Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 45 of 69 02 August 2009 at 7:05pm | IP Logged |
Before leaving, deactivating myself so as not to go on clashing with a certain oh so knowlegeable member, I want to name the one most helpful for me: "Siomotteikiru". Her L-R thread! I can't do L-R the way she does, but it helped me to see where I was going wrong.
Word-lists are all very nice, but I can't learn words the way Iversen does, in a vacuum, I get totally frustrated and bored after a day or two. And I'd only know those words on the page, not in real life. I know, I've been there.
I have to make sure I really know what a text is about, to make it memorable, if I want to learn from it, properly. Parallel texts I'd read the wrong way round before, making it a slow and painful experience.
I have to use a lot more audio than before, to get to "natural" listening and "natural" understanding/knowledge. Thanks for making me try and find a way to get over my unwillingness to listen to audio-books. I just needed to realise how marvellous that is, using an mp3 player! 2 ear-plugs!! Just sitting listening didn't work, my mind would wander. And I hated using a walkman, that one ear-plug thingy made me feel weird. Both ears plugged in make all the difference. Well, it wasn't really Siomotteikiru who told me to use mp3 players, but she pointed the way, without her I don't think I'd ever have tried.
It's the whole way my going about language learning has changed because of her. I find I appreciate literature much more if I listen to it, rather than read it. Even in foreign languages I don't know so well, like Polish (I just loved listening to Mikołajek [Le Petit Nicolas]). As a result I also appreciate reading more than I did, Russian for instance, a lot of listening to texts has allowed me to become a better, faster, more appreciative reader.
Yes, Siomotteikiru it is, I changed my approach a fair bit because of him/her and am also much more consistent than I've ever been. Unless I was obliged to (school, living in Spain and now Portugal) I never stuck to the same language for very long, I'd get distracted into doing something else. And here I've gone and done Italian and Russian regularly every day for way over a year, and added Chinese again, seriously, not replacing the other 2, as was my wont, but adding to them. Thank you, Siomotteikiru! And thanks for your many useful links, parallel texts and all!
Dixi.
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| Sunja Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6087 days ago 2020 posts - 2295 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Mandarin
| Message 47 of 69 02 August 2009 at 8:31pm | IP Logged |
Good luck with your endeavors, Charlmartell. Your posts have this degree of poignancy that is both interesting and fun to read. People that can express themselves well writing in this forum come few and far between.
As long as I'm here (I'm not leaving) I'd like to tip my hat to -- not someone -- but some THING. I think TAC is the best thing about this forum and it has really helped me to challenge myself. Reineke, did you invent the TAC competition? Whoever came up with this thing, it's really a super idea. I daresay I waste a lot of time here, but TAC has really kept me focused and moving forward. Otherwise I would get sidetracked by who-knows-what.
There's also countless link-droppers that I wish I could mention here, but that would be like trying to thank everyone at the Oscars.
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Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6705 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map
| Message 48 of 69 02 August 2009 at 11:38pm | IP Logged |
It is sad that Charlmartell has stopped, and it will be equally sad if also turaisiawase actually stops this time. So let me in a somewhat convoluted way express my gratitude to Reineke for keeping me in this forum by creating the TAC project. It provoked me to start something that really is a multilingual blog rather than a logbook in the strict sense (and even less a TAC log), and the urge to keep this thing running is - or has been - a powerful incentive for me to stay here. But if the rest of the forum loses its most knowledgeable and thought provoking members one after the other then it may not be worth trying to keep anything alive here.
I went back to the forum for the second time today to add an item to my log, but after reading this thread I don't really feel like writing more. Maybe later.
Edited by Iversen on 02 August 2009 at 11:42pm
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