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| M. Medialis Diglot TAC 2010 Winner Senior Member Sweden Joined 6362 days ago 397 posts - 508 votes  Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Russian, Japanese, French | Message 33 of 37 31 May 2010 at 12:04am | IP Logged | ||
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iaf: Just to check: Have you seen Prof. Arguelles' video where he demonstrates his scriptorium technique?
Anyways, the main points in doing scriptorium (and what makes it so great in my opinion) are these factors (note that these are just my own personal opinions): 1. You can focus on the small details of the language (looking up every unknown word and construct in dictionaries and grammars, and make sure you pronounce the words exactly as the voice actor does). 2. By doing such detailed analysis, one could say that you "slow down" the language to a manageable speed. Following along in fast speech without missing nuances is often hard, and scriptorium enables you to do that. 3. By using Prof. Arguelles' techniques, you're employing a "holistic" approach, where you connect listening, reading, writing, spelling, grammar studies, new vocabulary, speaking, articulation and pronunciation at the same time! Combining so many aspects of the language makes me remember the sentences I study effectively and naturally (even though I don't try to memorize them). If you do scriptorium from literature, you may also want to consider listening to the audio the day after the session. -A cheap way of reinforcing your memory, and you get a chance to catch the things you learnt in the previous day in "real-time". So, to answer your question:
I don't think it's necessary. I often re-check the spelling of the word multiple times as I write it (this is important for me in Russian since I often tend to write 'a' instead of 'o' if I'm not alert). Remember that the point is to focus on details. Quality before quantity is the golden rule in this exercise (Prof. Arguelles employs other methods to deal with the quantity aspect). But as you're progressing in the language, it should get easier and easier, and most of the words should just "write themselves" naturally since you've become so used to them. Another thing: Doing scriptorium correctly can become extremely exhausting if you're new to the language (that's what I experienced with Japanese when I was a beginner). So you may decide to ignore some details (i.e. hard grammar, strange words and frustrating ambiguities) in the texts in order to get through it. I feel that many grammar points and constructs are easier to learn from listening-reading techniques etc. Edited by M. Medialis on 31 May 2010 at 12:11am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5561 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona | Message 34 of 37 01 June 2010 at 10:07am | IP Logged | ||
Totally! I did some Scriptorium in Russian last year, and now I can look proudly back on all these hand-written mini works of art, and in doing so, whole new waves of motivation well up inside me and encourage me onwards. I even feel like putting one of the neatest examples on my wall... I know one person who did this with kanji and traditional brush-writing, and papered all the walls of his study. So I know I'm not the only crazy one out there. ;) Edited by Teango on 01 June 2010 at 10:08am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| iaf Heptaglot Newbie Germany Joined 5603 days ago 34 posts - 36 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Spanish, Dutch, Esperanto, Latin | Message 35 of 37 01 June 2010 at 11:22am | IP Logged | ||
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Like the two of you said, I began yesterday to collect all my writings in some kind of book. I have also started recording the time I have done sriptorium and shadowing.
However, I slowly realise that it can be difficult to do the methods every day. So I have to pull my socks up at the moment since I am convinced that daily study is absolutely crucial, right? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| M. Medialis Diglot TAC 2010 Winner Senior Member Sweden Joined 6362 days ago 397 posts - 508 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Russian, Japanese, French | Message 36 of 37 01 June 2010 at 5:17pm | IP Logged | ||
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iaf: If you manage to do it everyday, you will surely see your progress sky-rocket (mostly because all those small hours sum up quickly when you do it everyday). However, whatever you do, don't beat yourself up if you miss a day; that is, don't try doubling the effort the next day or something similar.
(Khatzumoto writes about this in his "Binging and purging" articles at www.alljapaneseallthetime.com). Have fun and you will win! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| RagsToRich Newbie United Kingdom therealmind.com Joined 5408 days ago 11 posts - 18 votes Studies: Spanish | Message 37 of 37 22 August 2010 at 10:49pm | IP Logged | ||
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My thoughts on shadowing after one week:
My "parseing" ability has improved significantly. My "reading" (but without necessarily understanding) ability has improved significantly. My mechanical speaking skill has improved significantly. I seem to have Spanish giberish (my target language) going on in my head for about 2 hours after a 30 minute shadowing session. The jury is still out on understanding, but I'm happy to give this another 2 weeks at least before concluding how it has affected that. But basically - great! After 7 months of audio-linguistic vocab building this is just what the doctor ordered. Edited by RagsToRich on 22 August 2010 at 10:50pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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