IronFist Senior Member United States Joined 6438 days ago 663 posts - 941 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean
| Message 1 of 15 04 February 2012 at 6:18am | IP Logged |
Has anyone used these? I saw them referenced in one other thread but wanted to get some reviews if anyone here has used them.
http://www.paradigmbusters.com/
Edited by IronFist on 05 February 2012 at 1:08am
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Haksaeng Senior Member Korea, South Joined 6199 days ago 166 posts - 250 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean, Arabic (Levantine)
| Message 2 of 15 04 February 2012 at 10:13am | IP Logged |
Those look really interesting. Especially the emphasis on usage notes for the vocab and grammar. Did you listen to the sample recordings? They sound very different from the ones I'm used to (Sogang). I may order one of these books if I can figure out how to do it without Paypal.
For self-study, these books look a lot better than other options I can think of.
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IronFist Senior Member United States Joined 6438 days ago 663 posts - 941 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean
| Message 3 of 15 04 February 2012 at 6:48pm | IP Logged |
I didn't see any audio recordings mentioned anywhere on their website. Did I just overlook them?
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Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5536 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese
| Message 4 of 15 04 February 2012 at 8:13pm | IP Logged |
Never heard of them before...interesting.
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IronFist Senior Member United States Joined 6438 days ago 663 posts - 941 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean
| Message 5 of 15 04 February 2012 at 9:47pm | IP Logged |
Oh wait, I just saw the audio stuff on the "Resources" page.
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IronFist Senior Member United States Joined 6438 days ago 663 posts - 941 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean
| Message 6 of 15 05 February 2012 at 1:21am | IP Logged |
Haksaeng wrote:
Those look really interesting. Especially the emphasis on usage notes for the vocab and grammar. Did you listen to the sample recordings? They sound very different from the ones I'm used to (Sogang). I may order one of these books if I can figure out how to do it without Paypal.
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Can you link me to the Sogang books please? I'd like to check them out.
I haven't listened to the audio samples for Paradign Busters yet. How are they different? Different accent or something?
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Haksaeng Senior Member Korea, South Joined 6199 days ago 166 posts - 250 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean, Arabic (Levantine)
| Message 7 of 15 05 February 2012 at 2:43am | IP Logged |
I don't know of any sites similar to the ParadigmBusters that show a lot of detail on the Sogang books, so you can't really get a good feel for what they're like.
You can look them up at hanbooks.com or just google them. They're also on Amazon (my original link was not done correctly so I removed it)
The difference I noticed in the audio samples is that, to me, the PB audio sounds a bit more natural, less theatrical. The samples in the lower level are closer to more natural speed, not as slowed down as the Sogang. I'm not saying they sound perfectly natural, they're still unnaturally crisp and clear and un-slurred and slow...but in my opinion are closer to a natural-sounding Korean. Talk To Me In Korean has more natural audio.
I think what looks interesting about these books you linked to is that they are designed specifically for English speakers by people teaching Korean in US who have a strong grasp of English. They seem to explain better how to use the vocab and grammar, focusing on nuance. The Sogang books are not good at doing that and after learning things from those books and misapprehending some of the vocab and grammar, TTMIK has helped cleared up some of my misconceptions.
I still like the Sogang books (I got used to them when I took a class there) but they have some limitations. They are designed for students coming from many different language backgrounds, mostly Asian, and like I said, they just are not clear on issues of nuance.
Edited by Haksaeng on 05 February 2012 at 2:58am
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IronFist Senior Member United States Joined 6438 days ago 663 posts - 941 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean
| Message 8 of 15 05 February 2012 at 3:03am | IP Logged |
I think I'm gonna order at least the first Paradigm Busters book. I'll post a review here.
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