Mooby Senior Member Scotland Joined 6106 days ago 707 posts - 1220 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Polish
| Message 1 of 91 19 February 2012 at 2:59pm | IP Logged |
The Latvian government has long made learning Latvian a prerequisite for citizenship. With barely 2 million native speakers and a high number of resident Russians, this seems perfectly understandable to me. But Russians have complained of discrimination and initiated a referendum to make Russian the second official language. This has just been strongly rejected - read more here (BBC website).
Given the small size of Latvia, the number of Latvian speakers and it's history of Soviet rule I'm glad that it's standing firm. But it highlights the difficulties that arise from taking such a stance, and how strong national identity is linked to language.
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Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7157 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish
| Message 2 of 91 19 February 2012 at 3:47pm | IP Logged |
I have mixed feelings about this.
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clumsy Octoglot Senior Member Poland lang-8.com/6715Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5179 days ago 1116 posts - 1367 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Japanese, Korean, French, Mandarin, Italian, Vietnamese Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swedish Studies: Danish, Dari, Kirundi
| Message 3 of 91 19 February 2012 at 4:13pm | IP Logged |
It's a very sad news :(
Kyrgyz and Kazakh people have been traated much worse than Latvian, but they don't
discriminate ethnic minorities, Russian is co-official there.
I think Estonia should also put Russian as co-official.
Same about Finland, and Swedish, Kosovo and Serbian.
There arn't many Swedes in Finland or Serbs in Kosovo, but these languages are
considered official there.
Edited by clumsy on 19 February 2012 at 4:17pm
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Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian*
| Message 4 of 91 19 February 2012 at 4:38pm | IP Logged |
Mooby wrote:
The Latvian government has long made learning Latvian a prerequisite for
citizenship. With barely 2 million native speakers and a high number of resident
Russians, this seems perfectly understandable to me. But Russians have complained of
discrimination and initiated a referendum to make Russian the second official language.
This has just been strongly rejected - 17083397">read more here (BBC website).
Given the small size of Latvia, the number of Latvian speakers and it's history of
Soviet rule I'm glad that it's standing firm. But it highlights the difficulties that
arise from taking such a stance, and how strong national identity is linked to
language.
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Is it fair that the language of the third of the population is considered foreign?
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Ellsworth Senior Member United States Joined 4958 days ago 345 posts - 528 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Swedish, Finnish, Icelandic, Irish
| Message 5 of 91 19 February 2012 at 5:25pm | IP Logged |
I really support things like this. Languages like Latvian need government support and the
action of their speakers or they really have no chance against languages like Russian. I
only wish that more governments had done this years ago.
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Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian*
| Message 6 of 91 19 February 2012 at 5:32pm | IP Logged |
Ellsworth wrote:
I really support things like this. Languages like Latvian need
government support and the
action of their speakers or they really have no chance against languages like Russian. I
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No one argues that it should support Latvian. But why does it have to oppress Russian?
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Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian*
| Message 7 of 91 19 February 2012 at 5:40pm | IP Logged |
"But many ethnic Latvians believe the referendum was an attempt to encroach on the
country's independence."
From the article.
That's nonsense.
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Ellsworth Senior Member United States Joined 4958 days ago 345 posts - 528 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Swedish, Finnish, Icelandic, Irish
| Message 8 of 91 19 February 2012 at 5:44pm | IP Logged |
What is stopping the Russian speakers from learning Latvian? There is a significant
amount of Spanish speakers in the United States, but we don't offer schools completely in
Spanish like Latvia does for Russians. If the Latvians are oppressing the Russian
speakers, America is even more. All that they are asking is that everyone who wants to be
full citizens take the time to learn the one language that a majority of the populous
speaks. That seems far from oppression.
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