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rivere123
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United States
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Speaks: English*
Studies: French

 
 Message 9 of 12
20 February 2012 at 9:19pm | IP Logged 
I'm finding French and Spanish overlap hugely, so I didn't dwell on the first sections of my Spanish grammar book at all. Vocabulary and pronunciation are something different, but these two romance languages have very similar grammar at the levels I am at right now.
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manish
Triglot
Groupie
Romania
Joined 5547 days ago

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Speaks: Romanian*, English, German
Studies: Spanish

 
 Message 10 of 12
10 March 2012 at 12:40pm | IP Logged 
The "spelled (almost) the same but pronounced way differently" thing has put me off when I tried to learn Dutch with a solid knowledge of German.
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crafedog
Diglot
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United Kingdom
Joined 5819 days ago

166 posts - 337 votes 
Speaks: English*, Spanish
Studies: Korean, Tok Pisin, French

 
 Message 11 of 12
10 March 2012 at 1:37pm | IP Logged 
rivere123 wrote:
I'm finding French and Spanish overlap hugely, so I didn't dwell on
the first sections of my Spanish grammar book at all. Vocabulary and pronunciation are
something different, but these two romance languages have very similar grammar at the
levels I am at right now.


I have to second this. I'm breezing through French in a way that I never had in Spanish.
All the things I struggled to learn the first time round (when learning Spanish) are all
just familiar ground to me now in French.
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Iversen
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Denmark
berejst.dk
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Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan
Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian
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 Message 12 of 12
10 March 2012 at 2:24pm | IP Logged 
It is evident that learning a language which is a close relative of something you already know is much easier than learning something unrelated from scratch. And in your choice of methods you can very quickly get to the stage where virtually any text is comprehensible. And that's OK if your goal only is to learn the language passively. But in most cases you will probably want to become an active user of the language, and then it is dangerous to assume that you already know enough to skip the basics.

Actually you still need to study its phonology, its morphology (with special emphasis on common and irregular words) and its grammar in general - just as you would do with an unrelated language. The differences are that you can get through these elementary things much faster, that you can use comparative methods (including lists of 'false friends') AND that you can do extensive activities such as armchair reading almost from day one.

Let me take a concrete example: as a Dane living in Denmark I have watched Swedish television since the seventies and visited Sweden many times. So I would say that passively I have been fairly advanced for a long time - but I didn't speak the language. So when I decided to activate Swedish it would have been tempting just to start speaking and writing and hoping for the best. But instead I copied texts, I parroted sentences from TV and I read the few useful things about grammar and phonology etc. which I could find on the internet. Even with these preparations I sometimes mix Danish and Swedish (and I certainly have a Danish accent), but without them I would sound like a charter tour guide with a mixed group trying to speaking 'Scandinavian'.


Edited by Iversen on 10 March 2012 at 2:27pm



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