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| nway Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/Vic Joined 5418 days ago 574 posts - 1707 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, Japanese, Korean | Message 9 of 16 12 August 2011 at 4:14am | IP Logged | ||
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It doesn't really make any sense to measure Pimsleur's value by the number of words it introduces. There is a benefit and a cost to everything, and if more words were introduced, the cost would inevitably be either more lessons or reduced repetition of the current vocabulary.
The purpose of Pimsleur is to get you comfortable enough with basic conversation to be able to immerse yourself in the environment where the language is actually spoken and use your basic skills to engage with native speakers and through this manner attain the level of fluency you desire. 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| liddytime Pentaglot Senior Member United States mainlymagyar.wordpre Joined 6232 days ago 693 posts - 1328 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Galician Studies: Hungarian, Vietnamese, Modern Hebrew, Norwegian, Persian, Arabic (Written) | Message 10 of 16 13 August 2011 at 1:56am | IP Logged | ||
That would be interesting with Japanese... I wonder if the honorifics and particles of Japanese would influence it at all? Do it if you are able! That would be great! 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| jdmoncada Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 5037 days ago 470 posts - 741 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Finnish Studies: Russian, Japanese | Message 11 of 16 13 August 2011 at 5:37pm | IP Logged | ||
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I did lesson 13 (of phase one) this morning, and I tried to write down all the concepts I had encountered in the lessons so far. I got around 120 so words up to this point, which is rather surprising to me. I feel that I can say a lot of things in Japanese despite this small vocabulary. If an average of 10 new words/ideas per lesson stays true for the rest of the lessons, then there is the potential for 900 words/ideas at the end of phase 3 (all 90 lessons).
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| iguanamon Pentaglot Senior Member Virgin Islands Speaks: Ladino Joined 5265 days ago 2241 posts - 6731 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, Haitian Creole, Creole (French) | Message 12 of 16 13 August 2011 at 10:43pm | IP Logged | ||
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Is the best metric "how many words did you learn"? Or, is the best metric "did you learn to put sentences together, answer questions, pose questions, develop a good 'language ear', develop good pronunciation, learn how to converse at a basic level to take care of basic needs?
Did what you learn through Pimsleur help you to build on that knowledge and progress further than you would have with never having done the course? I agree that the vocabulary is quite limited but do you know and can you use that limited vocabulary better than a larger vocabulary presented over the same amount of time? I am curious. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| jdmoncada Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 5037 days ago 470 posts - 741 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Finnish Studies: Russian, Japanese | Message 13 of 16 14 August 2011 at 6:55am | IP Logged | ||
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Again, being only 13 lessons into the course, I would say it falls into the 2nd option. For me personally, it isn't about the words so much as the comfort with the ideas in general and the knowledge of how the sentence would with with different/expanded vocabulary.
This evening I listened to the 1.1 lesson in Russian, and it's the exact same lesson as the first one in Japanese. Perhaps all of their first lessons start the same way. From comments I have read around the Internet, it seems that the content thereafter does change from language to language. If it does not do that, though, perhaps I am in for the limited vocabulary described in the first post. Still, as we all know, the thing with Pimsleur is structure and getting a student to actually speak. It's one thing I like about it above all over Japanese content I have. Sure I have a podcast series or two, but working through a Pimsleur lesson helps me practice it until I own it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| MrFrenchFox Newbie United States Joined 4858 days ago 18 posts - 37 votes Speaks: English* | Message 14 of 16 19 August 2011 at 5:05pm | IP Logged | ||
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I am only at lesson 7 in Pimsleur. I don't think I would like less repetition. It was
very easy for me to start, and then lesson 5 started getting faster. The repetition helps me pick out little things I didn't notice the first time around. This is my first language study, and I think that plays a big role in usage. I am not used to speaking these sounds out loud and once you learn the sounds that are common in the language, then learning vocabulary should be easier. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| zsieri Triglot Newbie Spain Joined 4851 days ago 16 posts - 18 votes Speaks: Catalan, Spanish*, English Studies: Italian, German | Message 15 of 16 22 August 2011 at 1:01pm | IP Logged | ||
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Just finished lesson 28 of Pimsleur I of German, and I can say that it's definitely helping me with the tricky German word order: Some patterns seems to be stuck in my mind already, I think it's more important than the number of learned words, just my humble opinion.
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| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6553 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 16 of 16 22 August 2011 at 11:01pm | IP Logged | ||
It's about 500 total for all languages. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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