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| Kez Diglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4358 days ago 181 posts - 212 votes  Speaks: Dutch*, English Studies: Swedish | Message 25 of 203 31 January 2013 at 8:31am | IP Logged |
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Hey Yuhakko! How's it going with Norwegian? Have you seen a full movie yet?
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| yuhakko Tetraglot Senior Member FranceRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4633 days ago 414 posts - 582 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishB2, EnglishC2, Spanish, Japanese Studies: Korean, Norwegian, Mandarin | Message 26 of 203 01 February 2013 at 10:57am | IP Logged |
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@Renate: Thanks for the recomendations!! I'll probably go for 신나는 열두 달 명절 이야
기, It looks a bit more interesting. Yeah Korean and Mandarin have really similar words here and there (간단 would be in chinese 简单 which is read jiandan, so quite similar) so studying from one could help a lot the other. Japanese and Thai though are not that related so it won't have that added bonus of making the TL easier. @Leurre: Oh no I should be the one impressed (and I am!). Your Korean is so incredible. While everybody impressed me, your Korean just left me out of breath. Your Japanese is pretty decent too by the way! And plus you're been studying it for less than a year..!! Yeah things are starting to fall into place and I hope that February and the 6WC will help me get back into a real routine. @Billyshear666: Thank you!! I'll be checking up on you too! 加油！ @Kujichagulia: Hi! Haha well living in Japan you should be getting practice all day long already no? I did personally! And the problem with my roommate is that the more time passes by, the more she tries to speak English or french. As a result, I speak a lot of japanese but hear it less and less.. Luckily, when she wants to explain something or when she drank too much, japanese just flows out! @Iawia: Hi! That's true, I guess the similarities are probably too subtle to figure them out when not a native of one of the two. Unfortunately, it seems my buddy's quite busy too.. So as a result I haven't met her since the buddy party... I am practicing a lot my Korean, Japanese, and to a less extent my Mandarin with the exchanges though so it's alright. Plus first, I need to learn the alphabet! I didn't know your webiste but I checked it out and it's awesome!! Then again, I do need to learn the alphabet. Luckily, I searched for a while in English to find a good website teaching the letters but just ended up looking it up in Japanese and found this awesome website : http://www.thaismile. jp/ThaiLanguage/1alpha/ThaiCharas1.html. But while I am learning (very) slowly the alphabet, I still have no idea how to actually pronounce it. I don't feel like "Gor Gai" is how one would pronounce one consonnant. Any advice on that? @Kez: Hei Kez! Unfortunately I haven't watched a norwegian movie yet. I'd like to start by a good one so I don't get turned off, so as a result I am being overly cautious... I have watched 2 episodes of Brille, but while it is interesting to read the Norwegian subtitles while hearing it, I have no idea what is happening in there. Also, I found a NRK radio of Tune In, so I listen to some Norwegian when I clean my house or things like that (which fortunately happens a lot for now as I am still not totally installed). 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4522 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic | Message 27 of 203 01 February 2013 at 11:06am | IP Logged |
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I recommend the Norwegian movie "Rovdyr". You don't need to understand a word Norwegian to understand what's going on, the pictures and background sounds are very illustrative. It also has a nice theme song :)
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| yuhakko Tetraglot Senior Member FranceRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4633 days ago 414 posts - 582 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishB2, EnglishC2, Spanish, Japanese Studies: Korean, Norwegian, Mandarin | Message 28 of 203 28 February 2013 at 7:50pm | IP Logged |
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@daegga : thank you for your recommendation. Unfortunately, as I am about to write on my
update, I was really busy this month and did not find time to search well for this movie. I did try but couldn't find it straight away. In the end, I just decided to wait for the end of my hard part of the semester (9-10March more or less) before diving back into Norwegian and thus I am waiting that time to make full use of the movie. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| yuhakko Tetraglot Senior Member FranceRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4633 days ago 414 posts - 582 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishB2, EnglishC2, Spanish, Japanese Studies: Korean, Norwegian, Mandarin | Message 29 of 203 28 February 2013 at 7:51pm | IP Logged |
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Well, it has been pretty much a month now since my last update. First of all, I just
want to say that I did not drop out. When I chose my classes in December I knew this (half) semester would be really busy but I thought I'd have quite some time for myself too. It turned out that this was just underestimating the school's night life. I have been going out quite a lot and thus the rare time I get during the day, I use it either to sleep or to work on my classes (which unfortunately have pretty much nothing to see with Languages for most). However, tomorrow evening, I will finish the classes, next week I have a seminar which is going to be from 8am to 10pm during the full week so I might no get much time either; but after that, I'll just have 3 easy exams in a week and a half period so I'll (FINALLY!) get some time to put some actual study down. As you'll see from now on in this update, most of my study this semester was indirect study, by which I mean just videos, musics and conversations mostly. Anyway, let's get more into details: Norwegian: Unfortunately, I wish I could say good news about it. I actually did not find the time to really finally start seriously and in the end, just ended up listening once every 2 days to the NRK radio on Tunein on my way to school. That meant about 20minutes. As a result, I think I got to that level of "this language doesn't sound weird anymore" but not yet to "this language is starting to make more sense" because of the lack of actual proper study. I'm not proud of myself. I have not been a proper Viking as I should have.. Chinese: Again, my study of Mandarin has not been super consistent to say the least. I listened a lot (I really mean a LOT) to a Chinese radio on tunein on which they just have either talks or read stories. I've come to recognize more than I used to but obviously, the problem of vocabulary is still here. I've talked only a bit like 10- 15min once this month so that's something I should work on next month as I'll have (way) more time. I have read, here and there, some small texts in chinese on Facebook or what not but nothing much. Oh I also watched a few american movies subbed in Chinese such as Skyfall, Taken2, Django Unchained, Ted. Like for norwegian, I'm not happy with my progress this month. Japanese: Well for Japanese, obviously my flatmate being Japanese, I've spoken quite a bit of Japanese on a daily basis. I've even had a 1h30-long talk about differences in politics between france and Japan, culture differences and the problems between China-Japan-South Korea; all that in Japanese! I was really proud of myself, but also really tired because I tried to use my best Japanese (which I usually don't do. I prefer feeling natural and getting corrected; I feel that this is more useful). I have seen quite a few (about 6hours total?) がきの使い which I really stupid but incredibly funny. I've seen a few series, other TV shows (あなたの町にもきっとある強烈 のできない激うまラーメン which got me craving to go back to Japan again), I listened a bit to NHK news radio, but in the end, not enough I think. I read quickly a few articles online but not on a regular basis. Unfortunately, being busy I stopped reading my book. It's just waiting for me next to my bed every night, just whispering to me "Read meee" and so I feel quite guilty not reading it. Korean: Last but not least, actually this month exactly the contrary, Korean! This is the only reason I haven't spent my spare time crying I did nothing. I finally succeeded in motivating myself again in Korean and made me want to go back there all the more. To be honest, this never left. I've always wanted to go back to study and to Korea; but this month, I got closer to the 3 koreans in my school and been talking to one every single day for about 3weeks; with sometimes 3-4 hours phone calls too; all that in Korean. Well obviously, I've had to ask her to explain herself sometimes and if the topic gets too hard, we switch to English so that it doesn't end, but in the end, I exchange basically messages all day long in Korean and then, we meet or have a phone call. At the beginning of the month, she told me I had a Japanese accent (and I could not understand if it was better or worse than French..), but now, it's gotten less strong it seems. I also used to put a lot of Japanese in my sentences in Korean but now, when I mix, it more the other way around : Korean in Japanese sentences (but after 2minutes of Japanese, I go back into "Japanese mode"). I also learnt that my voice gets way higher when I speak Korean; and my way of acting is.. "cuter" let's say. I guess, the reason is probably because most of my Korean acquaintances have been girls, so that'd make sense.. I wonder how to correct that though. Because of this surge of motivation in Korean, I've actually found time a few times to do some proper study. Never long, but still. I've written one Lang-8 entry, read a bit of an entertainment article and about half the resume of that Korean friend, and listened to 2TTMIK lessons for the first time in ages. I've read a few facebook status too. However, I am gonna have to keep that up this coming month. Unfortunately, that friend is going to travel for pretty much half March so that'll make me practice less, but might give me more opportunity to work on my grammar, vocabulary and, of course, my other languages! Conclusion: Not a productive month related to active proper study, but a lot of passive in all my languages and some practice for the 2 higher ones. Thai went off the radar this month, but I decided to take it slowly. So I'll start really really slowly next month. Goals for next month: Norwegian: - Finally watch a proper movie - Completing a few challenges from the list, and all the ones from Cristina - Finally get well into Assimil - Maybe read a few articles from Klartale Chinese: - Finish reading the first small story from my graded reader - Work on more videos on FluentU - Write at least 2-3 times per week on Lang-8 - Try to understand more the radio - Try out once an episode of a drama without subs Japanese: - Start listening to NHK radio again - Read at least 100 pages (better 150-200) from my book (カフカの海辺） - Read articles on a daily basis (1-2/day at least) - Start working again on the JLPT1 grammar - Get back into Kanji study in some form or another (really vague) - Start writing on Lang-8 with the sole purpose of using grammar points I understand but never use Korean: - Listening to TTMIK lessons regularly - Study at least 10 이야기 from TTMIK - Get totally rid of the subtitles in dramas and tv shows - Listen to radio talks - Read at least 15 논문 from http://www.positive.co.kr/contents/contentsList.asp? f_categoryId=1&f_groupId=48&f_subjectId=136 - Read and study at least 5 articles from Advancedkorean.com - Read some entertainment articles (said to be the easiest ones. I'll choose from the drama or movie section) - If possible, get some hanja study done Thai: - Learn how to write and pronounce 10-15 letters. General: - Never give up - Find the motivation when I'm having trouble going on - Stay consistent in all those languages!!! - Catch up with everybody's logs from my teams for the TAC. This might be really difficult, but I'll try to at least know what you've done in the past 2 weeks! This might be a bit optimist, but I'd rather try to reach all that than not having something to push me to study. And now, off to listen to my first Iyagi from TTMIK for a very long time! Edited by yuhakko on 28 February 2013 at 7:53pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| yuhakko Tetraglot Senior Member FranceRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4633 days ago 414 posts - 582 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishB2, EnglishC2, Spanish, Japanese Studies: Korean, Norwegian, Mandarin | Message 30 of 203 10 April 2013 at 4:11pm | IP Logged |
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Alright, It's been another long month without any update, but here it is! First a long
update about this month and then a shorter one (hopefully) about this first quarter. General: I ended up staying busy pretty much all month long; but am finding more and more time as time passes by. I still wish I had more time, but it seems I won't until I find an internship and if I find it too late, then I might have to follow up with exams.. well anyway, I am catching up on logs just by reading the ones that post (and reading their posts I missed). Norwegian: I am really having trouble studying it diligently but am still listening to radio often and found a few days ago an anki deck with basic words and sentences. Det er greit! But still not enough I think. Unfortunately (for Norwegian), I will take the HSK exam in 2months and am not at the level, so I'll probably just keep things going slowly for Norwegian for now. As I did a few days ago, I might just write from time to time in Norwegian on Twitter or Lang-8 but probably not much more. Japanese: I had a pretty cool month. I let my anki on the side until about 2weeks ago but am now back putting slowly but surely words for the JLPT N1 in it. Some words feel useless (stuff like 匁), but we never know so I am still learning them. I've also watched one drama 最高の離婚. I didn't want to at first but found it with chinese and japanese subs and enjoyed quite a lot the story while checking out the subs sometimes. My flatmate seems to be getting tired of talking in Japanese. She keeps on answering in English.. except when she's drunk ^^ Anyway, I am now starting to get into the mood for the JLPT N1 in december, or at least to prepare for it! We'll see if I actually go for it. Oh and I also read 90 pages of Kafka on the Shore too. Interesting but a bit weird for now. Korean: Still going strong. I haven't followed much my plan but I did read a few articles, listened to a lot of radio talks, totally stopped using subtitles, and continued talking a lot in Korean. My accent's gotten better it seems. I also started an anki deck with the intermediate TOPIK vocabulary in it. I also checked some hanja, but nothing too precise either. Mandarin: slow start, and only the "listening to a lot of radio talks" part of my objectives fully completed, but I found motivation again around mid-march, getting the opportunity of spending 8-9 months in Shanghai for an internship starting september- october. However, I should be able to search for suppliers in Chinese for that so I've decided to take the HSK 3 on June 8th. I am still far from it (I think), so I have started working through the vocabulary list for it. I also took an HSK 1 and HSK 2 tests to check my results, and got for each 98-100 and 92-89 (listening-reading). However for the HSK 2, there was a lot of vocabulary I just guessed (right!). I feel that what I lack most is vocabulary now. Obviously I need more grammar, but without vocabulary, It wouldn't be of much use. I also started again writing on Weibo, and talking with some friends on Weixin. Thai: On break until I pass my HSK exam in June. Conclusion: I am starting to having a routine and thus it makes it easier to study, read logs, etc. Objectives for April: Norwegian: - Write at least 10 times on twitter. - Write at least 3 times on Lang-8 - Continue the Anki deck Japanese: - Continue my JLPT N1 anki deck. - Do some Kanjibox a few times - Read at least once a week the news - Watch 2-3 new movies (without subs of course) - Read 50 pages at least of Kafka on the Shore - Have one discution in Japanese with my flatmate on a "hard" topic (April's challenge) Korean: - Continue practicing - Listen to radio shows sometimes - Read some more 논문. - Study 1 advancedkorean article and add the hanjas to anki - continue studying the intermediate topik vocab Chinese: - Finish the HSK 3 vocabulary list - Take one mock exam for the HSK 3 - Read some articles in easy chinese - Write on Weibo, 3 times per week at least - Start talking again in Chinese with friends on Weixin on a more regular basis. (April's challenge) All: - Never stop reading logs (and start commenting) - Get a perfectly livable routine. - Try to do some meditation again (bonus) 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4869 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 31 of 203 10 April 2013 at 5:18pm | IP Logged |
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Sounds good!
Which Korean radio shows are you listening to? Are you also going to take the Intermediate TOPIK this month? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| yuhakko Tetraglot Senior Member FranceRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4633 days ago 414 posts - 582 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishB2, EnglishC2, Spanish, Japanese Studies: Korean, Norwegian, Mandarin | Message 32 of 203 10 April 2013 at 7:55pm | IP Logged |
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Thanks for stopping by! :)
I usually listen to CBS Standard FM. Depending on the time of the day, there are some talks. Not always the most interesting ones but quite good nonetheless! I wanted to at first but in the end, I realized it wouldn't fit my schedule, so I think I'll take the next one and go straight for the TOPIK 4. Btw, any idea when the next one should be? 1 person has voted this message useful |
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