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| angeltreats Diglot Groupie United Kingdom Joined 6298 days ago 48 posts - 49 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Portuguese, Swedish | Message 81 of 140 02 September 2007 at 4:37am | IP Logged | ||
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I hope this hasn't been answered elsewhere in the thread, I did read it all but might have missed this! I was just wondering how Esperanto copes without a subjunctive? I know there is a command mood, is that what's always used where in other languages we would use the subjunctive?
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| Gül Baba Triglot Newbie Hungary erikreadingbooks.blo Joined 6663 days ago 17 posts - 18 votes Speaks: Hungarian*, Romanian, English Studies: Turkish | Message 82 of 140 02 September 2007 at 12:20pm | IP Logged | ||
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A good to read article:
Why Esperanto Suppresses Language Diversity? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Gül Baba Triglot Newbie Hungary erikreadingbooks.blo Joined 6663 days ago 17 posts - 18 votes Speaks: Hungarian*, Romanian, English Studies: Turkish | Message 83 of 140 02 September 2007 at 12:25pm | IP Logged | ||
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Also read:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| amuzulo Newbie Germany chucksmith.de/ Joined 6314 days ago 4 posts - 9 votes | Message 84 of 140 02 September 2007 at 1:50pm | IP Logged | ||
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Another good to read article:
Why Esperanto Supports Cultural Diversity 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| awake Senior Member United States Joined 6640 days ago 406 posts - 438 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Esperanto, Spanish | Message 85 of 140 02 September 2007 at 3:25pm | IP Logged | ||
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Esperanto has what is called (if I remember correctly) a "conditional mood" for verb tenses. The -us ending. This can act as a subjunctive.
Se mi estUS richa, mi achetUS grandan auton = If I were rich, I would buy a large car. and it can be used in constructions like Chu plachUS al vi, iri al kinejo? = Would it be pleasing to you to go to the movies? (would you like to go to the movies?) etc...
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| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6474 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese | Message 86 of 140 02 September 2007 at 4:29pm | IP Logged | ||
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Depending which language's concept of subjunctive you are referencing, the -u ending (for imperative, direct and indirect commands) may also be what you are looking for:
"Atendu!" - wait! "Li diris ke ni atendu lin tie." - he said that we should wait for him there "Li petis ke vi ne pluiru." - he asked that you don't go any further
Don't think that it isn't possible to cope without, by the way. A lot of languages don't have any tenses, let alone a subjunctive, for example Chinese or Indonesian. Some people have suggested abolishing tenses in Esperanto, but I think that's taking it too far, making it too weird to work with the language. And seeing that Esperanto's tense/conjugation system is so easy, it's not really necessary either: -as for present tense -is for past tense (no matter whether simple, progressive or perfect) -os for future tense -us for conditional -u for imperative / commands These endings apply to ALL verbs, without exceptions, not even for "to be" (the most irregular verb ever) or modal verbs. And no additional conjugating (e. g. remembering the English -s for 3rd person singular) is necessary. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| LilleOSC Senior Member United States lille.theoffside.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6695 days ago 545 posts - 546 votes 4 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: French, Arabic (Written) | Message 87 of 140 02 September 2007 at 7:39pm | IP Logged | ||
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Where do most Esperanto speakers go on the internet to communicate? Is there a special chat they use or a special forum?
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| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6474 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese | Message 88 of 140 03 September 2007 at 5:35am | IP Logged | ||
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Well, Esperanto has many forums and chats, just like any language. The most popular general-purpose chat is probably http://www.babilejo.org . There are also two Esperanto voice chat rooms on Paltalk (but not open all the time) and a lot of Esperanto speakers use Skype or MSN. As for forums, you'll find it hard to find big Esperanto forums that are about "anything", the only notable ones imho being on Lernu and Amikumu. You'd better just search Yahoo Groups or Google for Esperanto forums dedicated to a topic that interests you. For example there's a nice active Esperanto Go group on Yahoo, which regularly has group tournaments on KGS.
I found that the key to practising ANY language for me is not to go to "general purpose" places or talk to people just to practise the language but to find places and people that share my interests, so that I talk not only to practise language but to have fun. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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