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magister Pro Member United States Joined 6607 days ago 346 posts - 421 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Turkish, Irish Personal Language Map
| Message 137 of 140 21 September 2009 at 9:10pm | IP Logged |
Fasulye,
I read somewhere in the forums that there are now some native speakers of Esperanto. Do you -- or any other Esperantists here -- know where I can find some information on them? I'm intrigued by this phenomenon, and I haven't found much online.
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Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5851 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map
| Message 138 of 140 21 September 2009 at 9:17pm | IP Logged |
magister wrote:
Fasulye,
I read somewhere in the forums that there are now some native speakers of Esperanto. Do you -- or any other Esperantists here -- know where I can find some information on them? I'm intrigued by this phenomenon, and I haven't found much online. |
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Magister, they are called "denaskulo", "denaskuloj". These are children of Esperanto parents, mostly of two different nationalities. Or children raised bilingually in the native language and Esperanto. The famous chess Polgar sisters are denaskuloj, to give an example. Only 1 % of the Esperanto speakers are denaskuloj.
Here is the Wikipedia-link about "denaskuloj" (in Esperanto):
http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denaskaj_Esperanto-parolantoj
Fasulye
Edited by Fasulye on 21 September 2009 at 9:46pm
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| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6443 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 139 of 140 21 September 2009 at 9:43pm | IP Logged |
magister wrote:
I read somewhere in the forums that there are now some native speakers of Esperanto. Do you -- or any other Esperantists here -- know where I can find some information on them? I'm intrigued by this phenomenon, and I haven't found much online. |
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Wikipedia's article on native Esperanto speakers and list of them may be a starting point. What else do you want to know?
For whatever it may be worth, I've met 4 of them.
Edit: I skimmed the page on denaskuloj in every language Wikipedia has it in (using machine translation for the Japanese and Korean); they vary hugely in content and quality, though the Japanese and Esperanto pages seem to be the best, and the Portuguese and Simple English the worst (both are short and contain incorrect information). This topic is a good example for the advantages of reading Wikipedia in several languages.
Edited by Volte on 21 September 2009 at 10:23pm
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Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5851 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map
| Message 140 of 140 21 September 2009 at 10:33pm | IP Logged |
You're right, Volte, the English article about denaskuloj is very short and not as informative as the Esperanto-version. It gives a start to read it in English, but I know that for example people with knowledge in Romance languages who don't speak Esperanto may abe able to understand the Esperanto-version. Therfore it's useful that we quoted both Wikipedia versions here.
Fasulye
Edited by Fasulye on 21 September 2009 at 10:35pm
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