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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4696 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes  Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 1089 of 1511 26 January 2014 at 12:04am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Something else I noticed today - why do Swedish singers roll their r so much more
strongly when they are singing? I was listening to Sofia Karlsson live earlier, but then I noticed Lisa Ekdahl doing the exact same. Det frrrrrrryser nu sakta till is. Anyone out there who can explain this to me? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4696 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 1090 of 1511 26 January 2014 at 6:35pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Azi am citit anumite articole în română (asta a fost temă pentru mine), și am găsit
niște articole științifice și le am rezumat aici. Puteți vedea rezultate de mai jos: http://www.descopera.ro/dnews/11966282-stephen-hawking-soche aza-lumea-fizicienilor- nu-exista-gauri-negre-poate-gauri-gri În acest articol, Stephen Hawking spune că teoria asupra găuri negri trebuie să fie schimbată – după părerea lui, nu există găuri negri, dar numai găuri gri. Acest schimbul teorii a fost necesitat pentru a rezolva un dezbat fierbinte a fizicienilor, și soluția lui Hawking a fost de-a regândi conceptul găurilor. Totuși, nu toți științifici cred că Hawking a dreptate, și rămân sceptici. http://www.descopera.ro/dnews/11953495-cine-are-mai-multe-pr obleme-de-memorie- barbatul-sau-femeia Cercetători norvegieni au descoperit că bărbați au mai multe probleme de memorie decât femeie, când se intră la vârsta 30 până 60 de ani. La femeie se întâmplă la fel anume de probleme, dar într-o măsura mai mică. O explicație apropiată nu s-a găsit – doar că o memorie mai bună este asociată cu o educație mai ridicată, și că oamenii cu anxietatea și depresia uit mai mult, dar observația asta este validă pentru ambele sexe. Edited by tarvos on 26 January 2014 at 9:36pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4696 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 1091 of 1511 27 January 2014 at 5:11pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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RO: Acum, din cauză lipsea a învățătoarei, nu am avut lecția astăzi, dar va fi
reprogramat cândva în aceia săptămâna - nu știu exact. Dar m-am pregătit oricum, și dacă va fi mâine sau vineri, nu mă fac griji - totul este bine cu româna și mă simt bun când vorbesc. I have also read Korean today, particularly in my reader, but since my Korean is very limited, I'll just keep it at a few words in Korean here: KO: 오늘 한국어 읽었어요, 그리고 예전보다 더 쉬웠어요. For anyone who didn't get that - I read the last part of my reader, and it was easier than I expected. I still need a glossary and a lot of patience to struggle through a Korean text, and I need the translation at the back badly, but I get some basic structures and given I have bilingual information, I can, if I read intensively, Iversen-style, make some sense of a Korean text. The text also explains some unknown grammar points, which is useful (because I hadn't seen any except for one) and contains a glossary at hand - however, some words you are apparently expected to know already (and I don't), so those I have to look up myself in the dictionary (or correlate through the translation at the back, but it's quite free). However eventually I got through my first text, although I am going to forget words like "peninsula" anyway (I don't know how to say that in Russian or Romanian either, although in the latter I'd probably recognise the word) (I checked - it's the same in Romanian and it's "half- island" in Russian - not immediately obvious, but I could conjecture that it meant "peninsula" in context if we were talking about the location of Murmansk or something). HE: בסוף, גם למדתי עברית. זה יותר קל עחשיו. אני סמח שאני יכול לקרוא יותר מהר, ובעטיד אקרא הרי פוטר. אני מדנר יותר, מבין יותר טוב... בעברית, הכל בסדר! I've also studied two lessons of Assimil, and am finally noticing minor improvements in my Hebrew, particularly in understanding. I still lack a lot of vocabulary, but we're getting there with the basics. Edited by tarvos on 28 January 2014 at 2:57pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5524 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese | Message 1092 of 1511 28 January 2014 at 3:05am | IP Logged | ||||||||
A common way to say "than expected, than (I) thought" in Korean is 생각보다 (생각 = thought(s), thinking).
Two things: 1) Peninsula is somewhat of a more useful word than normal in Korean, because Korea *is* a peninsula. In fact, if you prefix peninsula with 한(韓)~ (the same 한 from 한국) that makes the word 한반도 (the Korean peninsula). 2) Peninsula is actually "half-island" in Korean as well. 반(半) = half; 도(島) = island. Some other examples of those roots to help the word stick: 반바지 = shorts (lit: half- pants); 반말 = low speech form (lit: half-speech); for the 도 root, just think of place names for Korean islands, the most common example being 제주도 (Jeju Island). 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4347 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew | Message 1093 of 1511 28 January 2014 at 8:01am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Great. I know what you mean by focusing on vocabulary. I understood that if you know the word you don't need niqqud, you jst rd txts by fcksng on the cnsnts, and frankly maybe this sort of thing isn't so bad after all. You don't make the usual vowel related spelling mistakes. :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4696 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 1094 of 1511 28 January 2014 at 11:22am | IP Logged | ||||||||
I actually tried to write "than before" - is there a better way to do that than the way I did (now that I think of it, I don't think I need the location particle)
That is true, and it came up in a story about the Tangun myth, which describes the founding principle of Korea. I didn't know those roots, but thanks for the heads up. By the way, you seem to add the Hanja - are these important to know? I have no experience with Chinese (yet) and I think that Chinese is something on a distant horizon right now - maybe in 2015 or 2016 I will start it. (It's in the line of fire behind my current projects Korean, Hebrew and Icelandic, of which the latter I will get back to in the second half). @Renaissancemedi - thanks. Hebrew is logical if you know the roots and the prefixes. However I still need practice reading actual texts, so that is the next step while I continue to take tutoring to work on my speaking. Romanian is the other language I am working on improving quite intensely, along with French, but in those languages the focus is on becoming erudite, and eliminating small errors, not the "I am not trying to sound like a baby babbling" stage. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Evita Tetraglot Senior Member Latvia learnlatvian.info Joined 6541 days ago 734 posts - 1036 votes Speaks: Latvian*, English, German, Russian Studies: Korean, Finnish | Message 1095 of 1511 28 January 2014 at 2:25pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I think "예전보다" is what you're looking for, I just googled it and got 122 mil. results. Be sure to not leave a space before 보다.
The Chinese-Korean characters are definitely not important to know, especially for a beginner. It is, however, very useful to know whether a word is of a Chinese origin and if yes then note its syllable (or syllables) and look out for them in words with similar meaning. You know, like in those TTMIK Word Builder lessons. For example, I don't know the hanja for '학' but I know it is related to studying. Of course, other hanjas may hide behind the same pronunciation so you can't always assume that it's the same meaning but it's still helpful. Having said that, it is definitely not useless to study hanja. Warp3 will probably tell you that the Chinese characters appear on variety TV sometimes (or quite often) and they are used in street signs and advertisements and other assorted places, not to mention all the old written texts before Hangeul became widespread. I myself intend to start studying Hanja seriously this year but I suggest you don't worry about it yet. Korean children have to learn 1800 characters at school but I've heard many of them forget many of them since they're not widely used anymore. On the other hand, knowing Hanja does help when learning the Sino-Korean vocabulary so in this sense it's more useful for us than for Koreans. But as I said, don't worry about it yet, you'll have plenty of time to start learning it later if you decide to go for it. And I may be wrong here but I think you put the most emphasis on speaking and communicating with people so Hanja will probably not be high on your list. Oh, and just in case you didn't know, Hanja is mostly based on the traditional Chinese characters, not the simplified ones so... Learning the traditional ones may not be as useful for your Chinese as you may think. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4696 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 1096 of 1511 28 January 2014 at 3:02pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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@Evita: Paldies.
Now back to my Hebrew studies. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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