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| daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4519 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes  Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic | Message 25 of 34 19 June 2015 at 4:42am | IP Logged | |||||
because it's Central Europe, can't leave it in there 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| osoymar Tetraglot Pro Member United States Joined 4734 days ago 190 posts - 344 votes Speaks: English*, German, Portuguese, Japanese Studies: Spanish, French Personal Language Map | Message 26 of 34 19 June 2015 at 8:04pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Ha! Never underestimate the zeal of geographical hardliners. Most of the languages in
there are actually Southern European, according to the UN anyway. Speaking of my Southern / Central / Eastern / whatever it may be Slovene, I spent a little time yesterday looking for secondary sources. I'm starting to really appreciate the work that goes into learning a "minor" language! I started using Memrise, just because it's one of a few apps that support Slovene. It's pretty annoying that it won't download the deck so I can use it in the train, and the cutesy animations are pretty silly, but it's certainly better than nothing. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4519 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic | Message 27 of 34 19 June 2015 at 9:43pm | IP Logged | |||||
Good that you mention it. Just had a look, looks more useful than the Anki decks I found (which had phrases like "die, c**t!" - wtf).
It worked for me with the android app. Had to start it in the browser, then synced to app and pressed the download button. Works offline as far as I can tell. Edited by daegga on 19 June 2015 at 9:43pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| osoymar Tetraglot Pro Member United States Joined 4734 days ago 190 posts - 344 votes Speaks: English*, German, Portuguese, Japanese Studies: Spanish, French Personal Language Map | Message 28 of 34 20 June 2015 at 12:34am | IP Logged | |||||
I seem to be getting more technically adept by the day. You are absolutely right. The lack of Anki decks was a little surprising to me as well. If you speak Russian, you're in luck (assuming the quality is okay). The other surprise for me is that there are a grand total of two tutors on italki, neither of whom have hours that are possible for my time zone. That's really a shame, as I was hoping to verify the quality of my many dubious resources. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| osoymar Tetraglot Pro Member United States Joined 4734 days ago 190 posts - 344 votes Speaks: English*, German, Portuguese, Japanese Studies: Spanish, French Personal Language Map | Message 29 of 34 16 July 2015 at 11:05pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Nearly a month with no updates! The good news is that I've managed to keep up most of
my studying, if not the log. Predictably, almost all of my active studying has been for French and Slovene. French is moving right along, although I hardly do anything outside of Assimil. I did take one italki lesson, which went mostly very well. Hopefully I'll have time for another lesson or two, but I'm not sure at this point. I'd like to start working on some of the communication strategies from Boris Shekhtman's How to Improve Your Foreign Language Immediately- I noticed that my tutor seemed to appraise my understanding lower than it actually was. Slovene is just a lot of fun, and in the last couple weeks it's definitely been the recipient of most of my energy. It's at a sweet spot in terms of difficulty / unfamiliarity- there is enough new about it that I'm always discovering new patterns, but not so much that I ever feel overwhelmed. There are a lot of little Eureka! moments. In terms of resources and such, I abandoned the Memrise deck I was working on- maybe I'm crazy, but I felt like sometimes the prompt on the "front side" of a card would be slightly different than on the "back side"- singular vs. plural, that sort of thing. For the last couple weeks I was pushing hard on the Uni Hamburg site, which is unbelievably dry, but critically they have accents on the stressed syllables! This is a huge leg up. However, I'm going to start adding TY back into the mix- I realized that I was remembering certain phrases from the TY audio, and I think having dialogues that I can listen to on my phone is more helpful than I was giving it credit for. I also did two italki lessons- I finally managed to work out a time with the teacher. It's been predictably challenging, but fun. I also wrote a couple paragraphs on italki and had them corrected. http://www.italki.com/entry/581590 As an aside- I noticed that there were 98 "notebook entries" in italki in Slovene. I started getting curious about whether that was above or below average, and the result was about an hour of time wasted: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16hMWJcib0jWb3U69S6H2 Otmp6yftI2ZLT7FNUmc9BZ0/edi t?usp=sharing It has more entries per native speaker than BCMS and Polish, but fewer than Georgian. I'm guessing we have Expugnator to blame for that. This is all incredibly unscientific, but interesting all the same. This entry is a bit long, so I'll save any other updates for the next time. Edited by osoymar on 16 July 2015 at 11:13pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4519 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic | Message 30 of 34 16 July 2015 at 11:27pm | IP Logged | |||||
Which deck have you tried? I did the 3 "Basic Slovene" decks and they felt legit. The only annoying thing was to go through 15 or so verb "forms" for each single verb, even though he/she/it, they m/they w/they n, we m/we w, we two m/we two w etc. didn't have different forms, only different pronouns. Actually, the whole pattern of verb conjugation doesn't warrant more than two examples per form, it's simple enough. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5164 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 31 of 34 16 July 2015 at 11:37pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Don't blame me; I post my Georgian entries mostly in lang-8, and only occasionaly do I cross-post them in italki ;)
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| osoymar Tetraglot Pro Member United States Joined 4734 days ago 190 posts - 344 votes Speaks: English*, German, Portuguese, Japanese Studies: Spanish, French Personal Language Map | Message 32 of 34 17 July 2015 at 1:08am | IP Logged | |||||
I was using "Hacking Slovene." I probably should have guessed from the title. That would be a bit aggravating. All you need is the infinitive and the present stem, as far as I know (knocks on copious amounts of wood). Luckily the Uni Hamburg site puts its vocab lists in tables, so it's an easy copy, paste, format and convert to Anki. I did come to appreciate that Memrise puts each card in front of you a few times before putting it in the "learned pile." I've started recreating that in Anki by hitting the middle button a few times for new cards, until they feel really natural. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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