korman Newbie United Kingdom Joined 5062 days ago 4 posts - 6 votes
| Message 1 of 8 16 January 2011 at 2:06am | IP Logged |
I am trying to learn Korea. I have Korean dramas, music, and books. I try to have something Korean in front of me at least 8 hours a day.
So far, I still do not understand what is being said or what I'm reading.
How do you learn through immersion? Because, so far, it's not working for me.
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lichtrausch Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5961 days ago 525 posts - 1072 votes Speaks: English*, German, Japanese Studies: Korean, Mandarin
| Message 2 of 8 16 January 2011 at 4:50am | IP Logged |
Immersion is most useful when it is accompanied by actual studying. As you study new
grammar and words, you start to hear them in your dramas or what not and they are
reinforced in your memory.
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korman Newbie United Kingdom Joined 5062 days ago 4 posts - 6 votes
| Message 3 of 8 16 January 2011 at 5:04am | IP Logged |
lichtrausch wrote:
Immersion is most useful when it is accompanied by actual studying. As you study new
grammar and words, you start to hear them in your dramas or what not and they are
reinforced in your memory. |
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How do you suggest actually studying Korean?
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leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6551 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog
| Message 4 of 8 16 January 2011 at 5:09am | IP Logged |
Immersion without translation is like a day without sunshine.
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Leurre Bilingual Pentaglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5426 days ago 219 posts - 372 votes Speaks: French*, English*, Korean, Haitian Creole, SpanishC2 Studies: Japanese
| Message 5 of 8 16 January 2011 at 6:14am | IP Logged |
korman wrote:
lichtrausch wrote:
Immersion is most useful when it is accompanied by
actual studying. As you study new
grammar and words, you start to hear them in your dramas or what not and they are
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How do you suggest actually studying Korean? |
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A textbook. And in the case of Korean, I'll add a textbook that's heavy on the grammar.
Integrated Korean (UH press) is a pretty good series for that if you're a native
english speaker.
And then, once you have studied a grammar point, write out a little story with it, and
every other grammar point/word that comes to your mind. Then go watch a good 8 hours of
dramas and listen hard.
Rinse, repeat.
That's kind of what I did at first
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Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5536 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese
| Message 6 of 8 16 January 2011 at 5:59pm | IP Logged |
While it is technically possible to learn language by immersion only, it is nowhere near as efficient as any method that involves active study. All the cases I've heard of it working involved someone watching media in that language for *years* before they actually started to understand.
What immersion *is* good for, though, is for using what you learn from other sources and also as feeder material to act as guidance for deciding what to learn.
My suggestions to make the most of your media immersion:
1) Start with a Korean beginner textbook (or other type of course) to learn the basics. (I personally like the book "Survival Korean" and the Let's Speak Korean TV series, both of which feature Stephen Revere as the teacher, for this. You can find the LSK videos (a total of 260 ten-minute videos) on Youtube.)
2) Optionally, continue with an intermediate textbook. (I haven't really used anything that falls into this category, so I can't really suggest anything here.)
3) At some point (at least after step 1, but no need to wait until step 2 is done), start picking out words and/or grammatical features that keep appearing in the media you watch, but you don't know. Look up those words or grammar patterns and learn them. Then go back and find more items that keep showing up that you don't know.
(NOTE: The words and grammar you learn from step 3 will tend to stick *far* better than those learned from other sources since: (a) they are obviously used frequently since you keep seeing/hearing them and (b) you've seen/heard them in use in several contexts already and will likely continue to do so.)
While doing those steps continue watching target language media. K-dramas and sitcoms are better for some types of colloquial language, but shows like music shows and variety shows have the advantage of constantly plastering text on screen (and it's much easier to look up a word or grammar pattern if you've seen it written out first).
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The Real CZ Senior Member United States Joined 5650 days ago 1069 posts - 1495 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean
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To add to what Warp wrote, start reading. Get a book, look up words in the dictionary. Naver, Daum, and Yahoo Korea all have good online dictionaries.
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newyorkeric Diglot Moderator Singapore Joined 6380 days ago 1598 posts - 2174 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Mandarin, Malay Personal Language Map
| Message 8 of 8 19 January 2011 at 2:37pm | IP Logged |
Sorry guys but Korman is a troll, just not such an obvious one.
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