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 Hencke Tetraglot Moderator Spain Joined 6895 days ago 2340 posts - 2444 votes  Speaks: Swedish*, Finnish, EnglishC2, Spanish Studies: Mandarin Personal Language Map | Message 9 of 64 21 December 2007 at 3:29pm | IP Logged | ||
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I'd love to jump in at this point and recommend you go for Finnish.
But then I can hardly claim to be objective or impartial on this subject. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 10 of 64 21 December 2007 at 5:35pm | IP Logged | ||
I should have stated this more clearly I think: Finnish isn't just not utterly irregular, it's VERY regular. Maybe it's because of my affection to it, but I find it more logical than Esperanto. Edited by Serpent on 23 December 2007 at 5:07pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| furyou_gaijin Senior Member Japan Joined 6387 days ago 540 posts - 631 votes Speaks: Latin* | Message 11 of 64 21 December 2007 at 5:40pm | IP Logged | ||
Welcome to the forum. :-) I think you'll be wasting your time with either of those languages but I like your way of thinking. :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7157 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 12 of 64 21 December 2007 at 6:36pm | IP Logged | ||
Thanks, but be careful about relying on my sound bite in Hungarian. I do speak with a bit of an accent and this would be especially apparent if you compare my speech with that of a native speaker of Hungarian. Well, have fun with whichever language you choose. Taking an interest in Hungarian or Finnish culture would go a long way in sustaining an interest in the respective languages. If you think that Hungarian verbs are impossible to learn, you should read about verb conjugations in Mordvin, Mansi or Nenets - all of which are also Uralic languages. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| bellumgero Tetraglot Newbie Canada Joined 6182 days ago 32 posts - 37 votes Speaks: Russian, Ukrainian*, English, Polish Studies: German, French, Spanish, Italian, Serbo-Croatian, Portuguese | Message 13 of 64 23 December 2007 at 11:33pm | IP Logged | ||
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Finnish is a very musical language with its innumerable "aa","uu","ee" ets. It's like a song but this song is an extremely hard one to learn :) because that language lacks almost all the words derived from Old Greek or Latin that are part and parcel of most modern European languages.
As for Hungarian,it has a very interesting rhythm and intonation because of fixed first syllable stress. As for its wordstock, it is not so isolated as Finnish because in the course of time it borrowed quite a lot of words either from German or from neighbouring Slavic languages. I was amazed to learn that many fruits and vegetables in Hungarian sound almost the same as in Ukrainian. In view of the above,if I were you I would start studying Finnish as the most difficult and isolated from foreign influence European language (together with the Basque language). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| bellumgero Tetraglot Newbie Canada Joined 6182 days ago 32 posts - 37 votes Speaks: Russian, Ukrainian*, English, Polish Studies: German, French, Spanish, Italian, Serbo-Croatian, Portuguese | Message 14 of 64 23 December 2007 at 11:39pm | IP Logged | ||
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BTW, if you do learn Finnish you'll be a real hero. :) I wouldn't have the courage and perseverance.
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| bela_lugosi Hexaglot Senior Member Finland Joined 6455 days ago 272 posts - 376 votes Speaks: English, Finnish*, Italian, Spanish, German, Swedish Studies: Russian, Estonian, Sámi, Latin | Message 15 of 64 24 December 2007 at 3:44am | IP Logged | ||
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I couldn't make a choice between the two, really. They are both very difficult yet interesting languages, but I believe that knowing Finnish would open up more possibilities if you wish to use it for working purposes, since we have Nokia ecc.
As opposed to Hungarian, Finnish is grammatically speaking more regular, there are few exceptions to the basic rules. Or if you definitely want to learn a bit of both to see which one you prefer over the other, try and do some comparative linguistic research to highlight the similarities between the two languages. I think that would give you a good idea of what they are essentially like. :) Merry Christmas, by the way! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| foram Bilingual Pentaglot Newbie United States Joined 6186 days ago 6 posts - 7 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French, Portuguese, German Studies: Russian | Message 16 of 64 24 December 2007 at 2:23pm | IP Logged | ||
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I was on Youtube some more, and I decided that while Hungarian sounds romantic when you want it to be, I did not think it sounded like this in Angry situations.
BTW, bellumgero that was exactly the type of post that I was hoping I'd see! When I made the original list of pros/cons, you could see that Hungarian was more stacked. But Hungarian's overlap with surrounding languages is definitely a point for Finnish. Serpent sent a lot of really interesting Finnish bands too. I haven't based language learning on song-lyrics yet, but I have heard many stories that that is a huge head start into proper pronunciation and specific vocabulary. I guess that I will hack the 18 cases using Finnish. If I am still undecided, then I will try some Hungarian vocab. Good idea bela_lugosi. Otherwise there should be no turning back.. Here is a document I used to learn everything about the hungarian-finnish cognates. It is very unbiased and that's why I still started this thread. Many thanks again to y'all! Happy Christmas 1 person has voted this message useful |
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