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Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5673 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin
| Message 1 of 27 03 December 2009 at 4:45pm | IP Logged |
To be honest, I am not sure if I understand TAC very well, but what the heck.
So, with apologies if this is in the wrong place, but:
I hereby declare that I will devote 2010 to becoming fluent in Esperanto.
This is something I would not have considered until the past few days, but the enthusiasm of some other forum members has now convinced me.
My experience with Esperanto before starting this is zero. But, based on claims by other folks on here I understand that I should be able to get to a high level in just a few months, and certainly fluent well within the year.
Here, then, is my commitment:
The first week on January (days 1 to 7), will simply be gathering up the basic resources. I don't even know what learning materials there are, other than a vague recollection that there is a Teach Yourself Esperanto book, and a website (Lernu?) mentioned on here a few times. Hopefully I will find more, or may even find that no more are needed since it is such a simple language to grasp.
After that first week, the real learning begins. I will devote 100 days (i.e. days 8 to 107) to studying those learning resources. In truth, I will take off every Sunday to spend with my beautiful wife, but will study the remaining six days of the week without fail.
Now, here is the challenge. I will be doing this in addition to my current schedule with other languages. Therefore I will limit my Esperanto efforts to exactly 1 hour a day (in 4 x 15 minute sessions).
On day 108, I will switch from learning resources to 100 days immersion in authentic Esperanto material such as novels, music, newspapers etc. To be honest, at this stage I am not even sure these things exist in sufficient quantity to make this possible. Hopefully, the Esperanto community will be able to help me.
By day 207, I hope to be effectively fluent in Esperanto, and should by then be writing a weekly log entirely in that language (with English translation).
From days 208 to the end of the year I aim to be attending Esperanto gathering and speaking fluently with other Esperanto speakers, and giving advice to other would-be Esperanto speakers on how to achieve my newly found lofty-levels of Esperanto ability.
Perhaps more important of all, the aim here isn't just to learn Esperanto, but to test the claim that learning Esperanto will make me a better language learner in general, and therefore I anticipate reporting on how Esperanto is helping (or, God forbid, hindering) me with learning Russian, Mandarin, German, and all other languages I am studying.
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| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6443 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 2 of 27 03 December 2009 at 5:23pm | IP Logged |
Splog wrote:
To be honest, I am not sure if I understand TAC very well, but what the heck.
So, with apologies if this is in the wrong place, but:
I hereby declare that I will devote 2010 to becoming fluent in Esperanto.
This is something I would not have considered until the past few days, but the enthusiasm of some other forum members has now convinced me.
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Good luck!
Splog wrote:
My experience with Esperanto before starting this is zero. But, based on claims by other folks on here I understand that I should be able to get to a high level in just a few months, and certainly fluent well within the year.
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Yes.
Splog wrote:
Here, then, is my commitment:
The first week on January (days 1 to 7), will simply be gathering up the basic resources. I don't even know what learning materials there are, other than a vague recollection that there is a Teach Yourself Esperanto book, and a website (Lernu?) mentioned on here a few times. Hopefully I will find more, or may even find that no more are needed since it is such a simple language to grasp.
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After or as you learn the basic grammar and roots, learn the affixes, thoroughly. They're your key to speaking fluently without needing a large amount of roots.
Awake has posted some links that may be useful for you. Most are learning material, but there's also a podcast link.
The "Advanced fluency on Esperanto" thread may also interest you.
Splog wrote:
On day 108, I will switch from learning resources to 100 days immersion in authentic Esperanto material such as novels, music, newspapers etc. To be honest, at this stage I am not even sure these things exist in sufficient quantity to make this possible. Hopefully, the Esperanto community will be able to help me.
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The only thing I see missing here is speaking: you won't get fluent without having at least a few conversations.
The resources you mention exist in more than sufficient quantities.
Here's an earlier thread on music.
The Esperanto Wikipedia page on podcasts gives quite a few links.
There are quite a lot of scattered Esperanto literature sites; Donh's is one. For physical books, use the UEA kalalogo; Esperanto events or clubs near you may also sell physical books.
Splog wrote:
By day 207, I hope to be effectively fluent in Esperanto, and should by then be writing a weekly log entirely in that language (with English translation).
From days 208 to the end of the year I aim to be attending Esperanto gathering and speaking fluently with other Esperanto speakers, and giving advice to other would-be Esperanto speakers on how to achieve my newly found lofty-levels of Esperanto ability.
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Good luck and enjoy.
Splog wrote:
Perhaps more important of all, the aim here isn't just to learn Esperanto, but to test the claim that learning Esperanto will make me a better language learner in general, and therefore I anticipate reporting on how Esperanto is helping (or, God forbid, hindering) me with learning Russian, Mandarin, German, and all other languages I am studying.
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I look forward to reading about it. I've found it slightly helpful for all three.
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| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6474 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese
| Message 3 of 27 03 December 2009 at 5:54pm | IP Logged |
Awesome!
I've recently posted a comprehensive summary of good Esperanto resources on my blog: http://www.learnlangs.com/blog/2009/11/08/for-those-interest ed-in-esperanto/
For a first course, I can particularly recommend Lernu's "Mi estas komencanto" and "Ana Pana" followed by "Ana Renkontas". Take advantage of the offer to submit your completed written exercises to the lingvohelpantoj and have them corrected for free! If your German is good enough, I can also highly recommend the Kostenloser Esperanto Kurs, maybe as a follow-up to one of the above-mentioned Lernu courses. Even though it's only 10 loooong lessons, it gives you very comprehensive knowledge of Esperanto.
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| Mistral Diglot Senior Member Poland Joined 5933 days ago 160 posts - 179 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Polish*, English Studies: Mandarin, German
| Message 4 of 27 03 December 2009 at 6:31pm | IP Logged |
Saluton! (first and only phrase which I know in Esperanto)
I'm going to start Esperanto 2010 TAC too so it will be really nice to watch your progress. I'm looking forward to it!
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| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6474 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese
| Message 5 of 27 03 December 2009 at 7:06pm | IP Logged |
How far are you both from Zakopane, southern Poland? That's where a big international Esperanto meeting for young people will be held between December 27th and January 3rd. Even if you don't speak any Esperanto yet, it might be interesting to drop by one of the days and have a look around.
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| Mistral Diglot Senior Member Poland Joined 5933 days ago 160 posts - 179 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Polish*, English Studies: Mandarin, German
| Message 6 of 27 03 December 2009 at 7:26pm | IP Logged |
I know about that meeting and I'd love to go but unfortunately, I've already made plans for 1st January. Hmm but maybe 27 or 28th dec will be ok.
Are you planning to go, Sprachprofi?
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| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6474 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese
| Message 7 of 27 03 December 2009 at 7:41pm | IP Logged |
Mistral wrote:
I know about that meeting and I'd love to go but unfortunately, I've already made plans for 1st January. Hmm but maybe 27 or 28th dec will be ok.
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Yes, I have already booked accomodations. On the 27th many people will only be arriving, so the 28th or one of the other days would be best to go if you can only be there for one day. Or go for the big New Year's ball on the 31st if you don't have plans yet. One tradition I liked at past events is that in addition to the big countdown when it's midnight in Central Europe, foreign participants also celebrate the New Year of their time zone. So around 6pm local time you see the Asians wish everybody a happy new year, at 11pm the British are getting drunk and the Brazilians and Americans have to stay up till 6am or 9am even ;-)
It would also be worthwhile to be there for the Internacia Kulinara Festivalo, where you can try food and drink specialties participants bring from their countries. I'll see if I can find out when that will be.
Edited by Sprachprofi on 03 December 2009 at 7:46pm
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| Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5673 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin
| Message 8 of 27 06 December 2009 at 8:44pm | IP Logged |
Thank you for all the kind pointers above. I am resisting all temptation to follow them until 1st January, because I really do want to play fair by starting from zero at the beginning of the challenge.
So far, though, I did ask a relative to buy me a Christmas present: Teach Yourself Esperanto (with audio if this exist). I will not open this gift until 1st January either.
I must admit that my excitement for Esperanto is starting to build. After working for several years with Czech, and most recently with Russian, it will be nice to work with a language where most of the effort is on vocab rather than grammar!
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