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james1 Senior Member Korea, South Joined 5628 days ago 121 posts - 145 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 33 of 120 21 September 2009 at 7:00am | IP Logged |
I read this today.
난 그여자가 진실을 말하고 있는지 아닌지 의심스러워.
I understand it.
넌 전혀 몰랐단 말이야?
I like that one too.
Also,
우리는 개보다 행복할까?
Very good question...
In Korean, I would say dogs are much happier.
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| james1 Senior Member Korea, South Joined 5628 days ago 121 posts - 145 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 34 of 120 21 September 2009 at 7:07am | IP Logged |
Learning for spite.
I am going to learn French and Korean at the same time.
I have never studied, any French what so ever.
Not one word, except those that we use in English.
People don't believe in Self-study. They think language must be hard.
My goal is to learn a language so well, that they cannot question self-study.
If I show them Korean, they can just say, that I can speak Korean because I live there.
If I show Spanish, well, I already know a lot of Spanish.
However, French, I know no French.
Also, I am really interested in French, and I have many friends who want to learn.
So, It is time to start hunting for resources.
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| james1 Senior Member Korea, South Joined 5628 days ago 121 posts - 145 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 35 of 120 22 September 2009 at 11:05am | IP Logged |
Stay focused on Korean.
My reading skill, my listening skills, my speaking skills, they are all getting better.
I can hear it so much better. It's clear. I can hear the words and how they sometimes blend together.
My pronunciation can sound good at times and horrible for some words.
Especially, 괴물, something about ㄹ that seems really hard to get.
So, I have Koreans repeat the word slowly, very slowly, while I repeat and actually look inside their mouths to see where their tongue is going and the shape of their mouth. I try to do this often as possible. It is such an important sound to get right.
Well, lots or improvement.
New Ideas,
1. Get Elementary, reading text books
2. Or get bilingual books, Korean on one side, English on the other.
Anything with both languages is useful.
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| james1 Senior Member Korea, South Joined 5628 days ago 121 posts - 145 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 36 of 120 24 September 2009 at 4:29am | IP Logged |
I met people on this forum last night.
Now, I feel I need to really re-evaluate my study methods.
I think, just meeting them and understand their personallities gives me a better idea about language learning in general. So, although I was not able to study Korean that day, I did learn much about how to learn.
I really want to put more time into learning, too bad I have a job.
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Jiwon Triglot Moderator Korea, South Joined 6440 days ago 1417 posts - 1500 votes Speaks: EnglishC2, Korean*, GermanC1 Studies: Hindi, Spanish Personal Language Map
| Message 37 of 120 24 September 2009 at 7:13am | IP Logged |
james1 wrote:
I met people on this forum last night.
Now, I feel I need to really re-evaluate my study methods.
I think, just meeting them and understand their personallities gives me a better idea about language learning in general. So, although I was not able to study Korean that day, I did learn much about how to learn.
I really want to put more time into learning, too bad I have a job.
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Even when you're technically unemployed like I am, you don't always put enough time on language learning.. :( Plus, having to re-learn your native language is quite a humiliating situation...
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| str0be Senior Member Korea, South Joined 5608 days ago 103 posts - 148 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Dutch, Korean
| Message 38 of 120 24 September 2009 at 8:56am | IP Logged |
james1 wrote:
I met people on this forum last night.
Now, I feel I need to really re-evaluate my study methods.
I think, just meeting them and understand their personallities gives me a better idea about language learning in general. So, although I was not able to study Korean that day, I did learn much about how to learn. |
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James1, could you share some of the insights you gained last night?
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| james1 Senior Member Korea, South Joined 5628 days ago 121 posts - 145 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 39 of 120 24 September 2009 at 10:24am | IP Logged |
strObe,
In my opinion,
ennime and Jiwon seem to be really outgoing.
So, they seem to have no problems trying to speak and trying to create sentences of their own. Enki, I feel would rather listen and pick his sentences.
So, I feel that even though people have different personalities, they are still successful at learning languages.
For me, I have trouble speaking spontaniously, I always think carefully before I say a sentence. Even in my own language, I speak and think carefully. I am very cautious.
Therefore, I feel my learning techniques are very different. I focus on input, while I am sure ennime and Jiwon probably can start right away speaking and not afraid to make mistakes.
Mostly, I was impressed at how well they had learned serveral languages.
Especially, ennime is learning some african language. To me, that is crazy. I mean a good crazy. They all seem very ambitious to learn many languages, good work guys...
strObe, if you get the chance to meet them, it is really worth your time.
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| JasonChoi Diglot Senior Member Korea, South Joined 6363 days ago 274 posts - 298 votes Speaks: English*, Korean Studies: Mandarin, Cantonese, Latin
| Message 40 of 120 24 September 2009 at 1:40pm | IP Logged |
Hi James1,
I've been away from this forum for quite some time, but as a fellow learner of Korean, I encourage you to keep going! There is light at the end of the tunnel. Consider reading those free Korean newspapers you find in the subways. It's a good way to make use of commute time. :)
I also COMPLETELY agree with everything you said about the Korean education system. I like what you said about using AJATT and Antimoon methods. I am a strong believer in Krashen's theories and I'm a bit fortunate to have a tremendous amount of autonomy in my classes. I previously worked for a company where anything outside the box was taboo. The problem I see with Korea in general is that nearly everything here is test-driven. The whole idea of having tests seems to dissuade people from naturally learning a language. Anyway, just letting you know from one English teacher to another, you are not alone! :)
Good luck with your endeavors!
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