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TAC 2009: Korean in Kuwait

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GoldFibre
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 Message 201 of 532
09 January 2009 at 6:17am | IP Logged 
TAC 2009 Day 9

Didn't have Goong (궁) with me so I read the first volume of Threads of Time (살례탑).

TAC 2009 Totals

Children's Books: 6
Manhwa Volumes: 3
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GoldFibre
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 Message 202 of 532
10 January 2009 at 12:44pm | IP Logged 
TAC 2009 Day 10

I read 부엉이와 보름달 and understood just about every word. It is much easier than the comic books, but it is still motivating.

TAC 2009 Totals

Children's Books: 7
Manhwa Volumes: 3
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GoldFibre
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 Message 203 of 532
10 January 2009 at 3:18pm | IP Logged 
TAC 2009 Day 10

I also read 말썽꾸러기 고양이와 풍선 장수 할머니 which was about 80 pages and had a moderate amount of new words.

Earlier today I read Stu Jay Raj's blog and found his talk on memory and decoupling interesting. He says he uses color and texture and musical notes in his memory, which reminded me of my college days studying higher math. One of my classmates told me he associated mathematical concepts with colors in his mind. In my mind I have textures and shapes to go with abstract math concepts and properties, but the association happened unconsciously. After thinking it over today, I believe it's the same, but to a lesser extent, with me and Korean. I'm going to keep thinking over Stu's ideas and see if I can incorporate them somehow.

TAC 2009 Totals

Children's Books: 8
Manhwa Volumes: 3
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Jiwon
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 Message 204 of 532
10 January 2009 at 3:58pm | IP Logged 
Your books have very intriguing titles.. What do they publish for children nowadays??
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glidefloss
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 Message 205 of 532
10 January 2009 at 6:28pm | IP Logged 
GoldFibre, I've enjoyed reading your log. From your last post, it sounds like you might be a synesthete.

Edited by glidefloss on 10 January 2009 at 6:28pm

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GoldFibre
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 Message 206 of 532
11 January 2009 at 12:58am | IP Logged 
Jiwon wrote:
Your books have very intriguing titles.. What do they publish for children nowadays??

Most of them have been translated from English. At the Korean library I just try to pick out ones that have about half pictures and half text so I can make better guesses for the meanings of unknown words.

glidefloss wrote:
GoldFibre, I've enjoyed reading your log. From your last post, it sounds like you might be a synesthete.

I had to look that word up! Wikipedia makes it sound like a mutation, but I would have guessed that everyone has some kind of sensory association with their memory. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the concept? Anyway, I'm going to ramble on the subject of memory for my own sake now. Prepare for the longest post I have ever written!

This morning I've been progressively going through older and older memories to figure out which things I remember and why.

So far I know that:
* I remember a lot of conversations and interactions with other people (or dreams or books) rather than times I was alone. I find this odd because I actually prefer to be alone most of the time. Novels I have read play out like a silent movie in my mind.
* Visually, I remember most clearly the scenery and body position. Strangely, I don't remember well what the other people looked like or wore, only their pose and movements.
* Aurally, I remember meaning of everything that was said, but usually not the exact words. I don't remember tone of voice or pace.
* I remember things I touched or would have had an interesting feel - chairs, snow, hot asphalt, granite, etc.
* I don't remember in color, and if I try to associate a color, everything is white!

Stu Jay Raj mentions colors, tones, and textures as his memory tools, but I tend to think in shapes, movements, and textures. In one of his youtube videos I watched yesterday he quickly went through the Thai vowels with hand motions, and I can remember all of the motions he made with minute detail, but not the sounds at all! From the books I read last week I can't remember the colors of the pictures, but I could sketch the outline and position of the pictures from a surprising number of pages.

The above are all events I witnessed, but abstract concepts like math, economics, accounting, and hanja meanings all have similar properties associated with them in my mind. When I think of the natural numbers (1, 2, 3...), they are a tower of blocks in my mind, and when I take subsets, I push out the appropriate blocks like a game of Jenga. The class of all sets is a rain cloud! With hanja, I remember the actions/movements that occurred in the stories I made up for RTK. My preference for shapes is probably what attracted me to hanja in the first place.

So this exploration was a fun exercise that I hadn't considered before. Now I want to think up some methods that could make use of the properties I remember well. Already, picture books have turned out to be a good tool, but I am always interested in accelerating the pace of learning. I wonder if Stu would suggest consciously trying to activate senses that I don't currently use or sticking with what I use naturally?
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glidefloss
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 Message 207 of 532
11 January 2009 at 7:14am | IP Logged 
I'm not sure, but I think that Stu Jay Raj is a color-sound synesthete. Interestingly, a lot of people don't realize that they have synestesia because they assume that everyone sees the world the same way they do.
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RyanC.
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 Message 208 of 532
11 January 2009 at 3:00pm | IP Logged 
GoldFibre you are definitely my hero in terms of language learning. You have been
extremely consistent, and you always stay on track with your goals. Keep up the great
work!


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