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GoldFibre
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 Message 505 of 532
17 June 2009 at 11:24pm | IP Logged 
TAC 2009 Day 168

Forgot to mention - I'm on page 97 / 239 of the book I'm mining. At night I finished reading Keroro 14 and then ordered a bunch of books that Jiwon recommended. Thanks Jiwon!

Also I am starting to plan a trip to go to Korea in August. I've been there before a few times for work, but I only saw Seoul, and it was before I spoke a single word of Korean. The bus system should be less confusing this time around!
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 Message 506 of 532
17 June 2009 at 11:56pm | IP Logged 
Great log GoldFibre!

One question: how do you sentence mine the book? I know you write down the words, but do you take dictionary sentences or do you use the sentence from the book?
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GoldFibre
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 Message 507 of 532
18 June 2009 at 6:32am | IP Logged 
Rmss wrote:
One question: how do you sentence mine the book? I know you write down the words, but do you take dictionary sentences or do you use the sentence from the book?

Hi Rmss,

I have changed my study techniques many times since I started this log. Currently i don't take sentences out of my book, I just read until I come across an unknown word. Once I find one I create a card in Anki that has the Korean definition on the front. The card will quiz me on the Hanja if it is a Sino-Korean word, and on the Hangul if it is pure Korean. (and mixed script if it is of mixed origin) The back has the readings of any Hanja and definitions of any Hanja that I hadn't seen before. Here is an example of one I did yesterday:

Quote:
Front:
[명사][하다형 타동사] (괴로움이나 노여움 따위를) 참고 견딤.
【예】~는 쓰나 그 열매는 달다.

Answer:
忍耐

Back:
인내
耐【내】견디다; 참다; 구레나룻을 깎다

I think this method, which works on recalling rather than recognition, became effective for me as I entered an advanced stage in Korean where I had a good foundation in Korean roots. It just started to feel like the natural thing for me to do. I hope this helps!

Edited by GoldFibre on 18 June 2009 at 6:41am

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caleb
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 Message 508 of 532
18 June 2009 at 7:13am | IP Logged 
[QUOTE=GoldFibre] TAC 2009 Day 168

Forgot to mention - I'm on page 97 / 239 of the book I'm mining. At night I finished reading Keroro 14 and then ordered a bunch of books that Jiwon recommended. Thanks Jiwon![QUOTE]

Hey, if you've got a minute and don't mind, would you want to post a list of some or all the books Jiwon recommended? Even if it's advanced stuff the goal is to get there eventually, so I'll be looking for good stuff to read. Having some advanced stuff around is also motivational.

Thanks!
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 Message 509 of 532
18 June 2009 at 7:14am | IP Logged 
sorry about my failure to quote correctly.
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 Message 510 of 532
18 June 2009 at 1:07pm | IP Logged 
GoldFibre! you needn't have ordered all the books I recommended! They were supposed to be mere suggestions. Plus, you might not find them all interesting as I have.

@ caleb: as you and GoldFibre requested, I'll post my recommendations below. However, do bear in mind that I'm just a Korean teenager with no expertise whatsoever in Korean literature.

"Below are my humble recommendations of authentic Korean works.

괭이부리말 아이들
-Story about children who live in a shanty town in Incheon. Relatively simple language
and easy to understand. Written by 김중미, published by 창작과비평사 *****

가시고기
- It's a really sad and plaintive story of a father and his son. I don't want to reveal
to much about the plot, except that it's really beautiful story. Written by 조창인,
published by 밝은세상

세계최고의 우리 문화유산
- Non-fiction, scientifically analysing Korean cultural heritage. I really enjoyed this
book myself. Written by 이종호, published by Cultureline

아홉살 인생
- an autobiographical novel, detailing life of a 9-year-old. It's nothing like Adrian
Mole series. Very mature and thought-provoking. Written by 위기철, published by 청년사

지상에 숟가락 하나
- another autobiographical novel about a boy in Jeju Island growing up in post-war
Korea. For Korean learners, however, it may not be as useful as 아홉살 인생, because it
contains a lot of Jeju dialect in conversations. Written by 현기영, published by 실천문학


하늘 호수로 떠난 여행
- a collection of short accounts of the author's travel in India. Many Koreans liked
this book because it apparently shed a different cultural perspective (which is not as
revealing to me in Sri Lanka.. :P). But I found it enjoyable to read. Written by 류시화,
published by 열림원.

공자가 죽어야 나라가 산다
- I haven't read this yet, but I'm planning to read it after my exams are over (ie
after tomorrow). It's supposed to be a report about how Confucian beliefs have been
crippling Korea for centuries, and how it's irrelevant to modern society. Written by 김
경일, published by 바다출판사.

화인열전 1 & 2
- It's a non-fiction about artists during the Chosun period. Very interesting to read,
but it uses a lot of archaic words since it is more or less a historical report. You
might see your Hanja studies put to use, as this is one of those books that uses Hanja
in parentheses to make work meanings clear (as for me, I didn't bother to look at the
Hanjas XD). Written by 유홍준, published by 역사비평사

Anything written by 한비야
- She's a Korean philanthropist and travel writer. A few years ago, she embarked on a
journey around the world, taking land routes whenever possible with minimum air travel.
After a few years of travelling, she moved to China to learn Chinese for one year at
the age of 40, and now she works for an NGO, and published another book about her
experience in the organisation. She's a truly inspiring figure, and her travel logs are
entertaining to read.

If you don't mind translations, you can try out these too.

육식의 종말
- Known as "Beyond Beef" in English. Report about how crazy beef consumption is
changing the world. Language in the translation is a bit tough: after all, it's an
academic report! Written by 제레미 리프킨 (Jeremy Rifkin), published by 시공사

톨스토이 단편선
- Tolstoy: Short Stories. I loved this collection of stories. :) Written by 톨스토이
(Tolstoy), published by 인디북

사라져 가는 목소리들
- orginally "Vanishing Voices: The Extinction of the World's Languages". A detailed
analysis of language extinction and value of linguistic diversity. I really liked this
book. Written by 다니엘 네틀 (Daniel Nettle) and 수잔 로메인 (Susan Romaine), published by
EJB (EJ Books/이제이북스)

If I gave you too many suggestion and you need to narrow it down, I'd definitely go
with 괭이부리말 아이들, 가시고기 and something by 한비야. But again, it's just a Korean
teenager's toughts. "

I hope you find it helpful. Perhaps, I should start a different thread with all Korean works.
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caleb
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 Message 511 of 532
18 June 2009 at 1:19pm | IP Logged 
Jiwon wrote:

I hope you find it helpful. Perhaps, I should start a different thread with all Korean works.


Oh, very helpful! Thanks. There's a lot of very interesting stuff here.

Also, I had no idea you were a teenager. You're English is really good. And I notice that you've recently added Spanish as a language you study. You'll be a polyglot before the age of 20. Good luck with that. And thanks again.
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GoldFibre
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 Message 512 of 532
18 June 2009 at 1:21pm | IP Logged 
I ordered all the authentic Korean ones except for 세계최고의 우리 문화유산, which seems to be out of print. I guess I will look for it on Gmarket!


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