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Juаn Senior Member Colombia Joined 5345 days ago 727 posts - 1830 votes Speaks: Spanish*
| Message 81 of 174 27 November 2012 at 3:45pm | IP Logged |
Here's some information I received from Assimil. Most of it is already known but I thought I'd share nonetheless:
* they're not working on additional Indian languages other than Sanskrit. Though of course I'm elated over the upcoming Sanskrit manual, it is still a disappointment more Indian languages are not forthcoming.
* they are not working on a new Polish course.
* "We will publish two courses entirely new in February 2013: "Le Danois" and "Le Roumain"."
* "Our methods "L'Indonésien", "Le Tchèque", "Le Hongrois" will be updated at the beginning of 2013."
* They will publish a Cantonese course in 2014.
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| JohannaNYC Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4452 days ago 251 posts - 361 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English*, Italian Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Arabic (Egyptian)
| Message 82 of 174 27 November 2012 at 8:30pm | IP Logged |
Any word on the Croatian program either in English or Spanish?
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| primosanchez Diglot Newbie United States Joined 6306 days ago 32 posts - 32 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish
| Message 83 of 174 01 December 2012 at 6:41pm | IP Logged |
No Portuguese?
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| Juаn Senior Member Colombia Joined 5345 days ago 727 posts - 1830 votes Speaks: Spanish*
| Message 84 of 174 02 December 2012 at 3:42am | IP Logged |
I only asked about the French-base programs, so I have no idea whether any of them are being considered for adaptation into other languages.
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| ericblair Senior Member United States Joined 4711 days ago 480 posts - 700 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French
| Message 85 of 174 03 December 2012 at 11:10pm | IP Logged |
So, for the rumored English base German and Spanish Assimil courses coming out in 2013,
I had a few questions.
Will these be fully re-done courses with new audio, new lessons, etc...or will it
simply be the must recent German With Ease & Spanish With Ease courses, and only some
corrections of errors and such?
If anyone knows if they will be new, do we know if the Spanish course will focus on
Spain Spanish (I think this is generally called Castillian?) or will it be a Latin
American dialect?
As an aside, some dialects of Spanish I have heard sound like the speaker has a lisp. I
am not sure what the proper term is for that, but I am sure it has a name, as most
things linguistic do. Anyway, I am not a fan of that dialect and would want to avoid
it if I ever took up Spanish again. Is it the Castillian dialect? That is my suspicion,
but figured I would double check while asking on other things.
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| sillygoose1 Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 4636 days ago 566 posts - 814 votes Speaks: English*, Italian, Spanish, French Studies: German, Latin
| Message 86 of 174 04 December 2012 at 12:12am | IP Logged |
ericblair wrote:
So, for the rumored English base German and Spanish Assimil courses coming out in 2013,
I had a few questions.
Will these be fully re-done courses with new audio, new lessons, etc...or will it
simply be the must recent German With Ease & Spanish With Ease courses, and only some
corrections of errors and such?
If anyone knows if they will be new, do we know if the Spanish course will focus on
Spain Spanish (I think this is generally called Castillian?) or will it be a Latin
American dialect?
As an aside, some dialects of Spanish I have heard sound like the speaker has a lisp. I
am not sure what the proper term is for that, but I am sure it has a name, as most
things linguistic do. Anyway, I am not a fan of that dialect and would want to avoid
it if I ever took up Spanish again. Is it the Castillian dialect? That is my suspicion,
but figured I would double check while asking on other things. |
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They are translating L'allemand/L'espagnol from 2004 into English.
Yes, the Castilian is used.
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| ericblair Senior Member United States Joined 4711 days ago 480 posts - 700 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French
| Message 87 of 174 04 December 2012 at 12:50am | IP Logged |
sillygoose1 wrote:
ericblair wrote:
So, for the rumored English base German and
Spanish Assimil courses coming out in 2013,
I had a few questions.
Will these be fully re-done courses with new audio, new lessons, etc...or will it
simply be the must recent German With Ease & Spanish With Ease courses, and only some
corrections of errors and such?
If anyone knows if they will be new, do we know if the Spanish course will focus on
Spain Spanish (I think this is generally called Castillian?) or will it be a Latin
American dialect?
As an aside, some dialects of Spanish I have heard sound like the speaker has a lisp. I
am not sure what the proper term is for that, but I am sure it has a name, as most
things linguistic do. Anyway, I am not a fan of that dialect and would want to avoid
it if I ever took up Spanish again. Is it the Castillian dialect? That is my suspicion,
but figured I would double check while asking on other things. |
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They are translating L'allemand/L'espagnol from 2004 into English.
Yes, the Castilian is used. |
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Thanks for the prompt reply! Both of those seem like well-regarded courses. Hopefully
there is a good attention to detail and the translations and explanation are solid!
I wish there was an Assimil course teaching Latin American pronunciation :(
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| tennisfan Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5360 days ago 130 posts - 247 votes Speaks: English*, Italian, Spanish Studies: German
| Message 88 of 174 05 December 2012 at 7:16pm | IP Logged |
ericblair wrote:
I wish there was an Assimil course teaching Latin American pronunciation :( |
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Well, I'll just chime in here, I'm sure those who really are passionate about Spanish can go into more detail, but since no one else has mentioned anything I guess I will.
I'm sure some people will disagree with me but I really don't think that the Iberian accent on the Assimil recordings would present a huge problem.
First of all, there's no such thing as "Latin American pronunciation." There are at least 2 to 3 distinctive accents within Central/South America, and many others if you want to really split hairs. To my ears, there is a generally consistent accent spoken by those in Mexico and most of central America. If you want a prominent example, maybe you would take Jorge Ramos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyIegrlFIUs
Then there is the accent which to my ears sounds very generic, which you might hear in places like Venezuela, Colombia, etc (you hear it a lot on telenovelas):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EBDOJ263FY
Then there is the accent you find in the Spanish speaking countries in the Carribbean, for example, the dropping of the final 's' in many words, for example Jhonny Peralta, a baseball player:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvr8zjQiID0
And then you have the Spanish spoken in Argentina and Uruguay and to an extent in Chile, which sounds completely different, for example Luis Suarez, and especially the interviewer here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnjkeIhCUDQ#t=1m30s
My Spanish accent is basically of the central American variety (Jorge Ramos), which to my ears at least sounds relatively neutral. But when I heard, for example, some baseball players from the Dominican Republic, sometimes I can't understand a word they say.
Point being, if you want to learn a "Latin American accent," you would first have to pick which accent you want to learn. :)
I'm not an expert but to my ears, if, for example, you wanted to learn how standard Spanish is spoken in central America and Mexico, you would actually be MUCH closer to hearing that with Castillian Spanish (minus the z/c) than you would, for example, learning from audio recorded with speakers from Argentina.
For example, in this video, you can hear the same actor from above (dark hair), who is from Colombia, speaking in a scene with a Spanish actress from Madrid. There are some small intonation differences and of course the Iberian c/z, but other than that, they speak MUCH more similarly than, IMO, the same actor from Colombia would versus someone from Buenos Aires:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0Ptzjg1yAc
Don't know if that helped, but the point is, listening to the Assimil Iberian accents would really not do much harm to you if you were hoping to learn to speak with an accent from Central/South America.
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