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| patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7013 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes  Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map | Message 17 of 27 19 September 2006 at 9:24am | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks for the insight Charlie. Any faint hope that I ever had of possibly dabbling in Korean some day in the distant future has now vanished :)
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| andee Tetraglot Senior Member Japan Joined 7075 days ago 681 posts - 724 votes 3 sounds Speaks: English*, German, Korean, French | Message 18 of 27 19 September 2006 at 9:32am | IP Logged | ||
There's that Steve(?) guy on TV. I forget the name of the show but he's a taxi driver and has a joke with his passengers. It used to be on kind of early in the day; like 10am or something. Anyway, not really relevant.. but it does give you a motivational boost to see a foreigner speaking Korean with little difficulty. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Charlie Newbie Korea, South geocities.com/charle Joined 6639 days ago 17 posts - 18 votes Speaks: English* | Message 19 of 27 19 September 2006 at 10:24am | IP Logged | ||
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It would give me a huge motivational boost. You say it's on around 10:00 AM? I'm on break, so I'll have a chance to watch for it. Thanks for the lead.
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| Captain Haddock Diglot Senior Member Japan kanjicabinet.tumblr. Joined 6766 days ago 2282 posts - 2814 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Korean, Ancient Greek | Message 20 of 27 19 September 2006 at 9:22pm | IP Logged | ||
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To put things in perspective, I've only met 3 or 4 Japanese people who had that same high level of competency in English. One of them was the Japanese Consul in Vancouver (who visited my class one year). He also spoke French and Russian. A second was an exchange student and language whiz at my university. He was in my Mandarin class and was conversational by the end of the second semester. :)
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| Andy_Liu Triglot Senior Member Hong Kong leibby.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6784 days ago 255 posts - 257 votes Speaks: Mandarin, Cantonese*, EnglishC2 Studies: French | Message 21 of 27 02 October 2006 at 11:25am | IP Logged | ||
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"Most regions where Chinese is spoken use simplified characters for writing, which are easier to learn."
No, simplified characters are easier to write as its name suggests, are easier to learn also because of simplicity, but in an academic sense, it sometimes hinders you from understanding the context. Some characters are ambiguous in meaning which the PRC scholars and government have never eliminated. Some scholars do complain about this, but nothing has been done yet. The most prominent example is this 干, which means 1) certain (number of people/things); 2) dry (things); 3) the yang in the system of YIN and YANG; 4) to do There may be some more meanings, sorry for not being familar with this. The problem is, in the traditional set, 干, 乾, 乾 and 幹 are assigned the above four meanings respectively. You see the difference just by their shapes. This is what so-called multiple-to-one-correspondence simplified characters. Examples are few, but are enough to confuse traditional-set native users like me. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| solidsnake Diglot Senior Member China Joined 7039 days ago 469 posts - 488 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin | Message 22 of 27 04 October 2006 at 3:02pm | IP Logged | ||
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CHARLIE:
A very good friend of mine (who is a certified whiteboy from colorado) has studied korean for about 5 years now, works fulltime for the Chouson (dont ask me to spell it) newspaper as the HEAD TRANSLATOR. He is trying to get into UN translation, but is literally flown in to korea from the states to do on the spot translation for celeb interviews. He's 24. Any language is possible if youre are talented enough, Ive studied mandarin for a bit over a year, and can converse pretty fluently and certainly accurately pronunciation-wise. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7013 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map | Message 23 of 27 04 October 2006 at 4:16pm | IP Logged | ||
...and (presumably) work hard at it :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 Hencke Tetraglot Moderator Spain Joined 6892 days ago 2340 posts - 2444 votes Speaks: Swedish*, Finnish, EnglishC2, Spanish Studies: Mandarin Personal Language Map | Message 24 of 27 04 October 2006 at 5:16pm | IP Logged | ||
Excuse me, but are you certain about meaning no.3) there ? I am confused about this since the dictionary seems to have other ideas: 阳阳 (yáng) the sun; south of a hill or north of a river; in relief; open; overt; belonging to this world; concerned with living beings; positive; (in Chinese philosophy, medicine, etc.) yang, the masculine or positive principle in nature. And for 干 a number of meanings come up, but no mention of any yang: 干 (gàn) trunk; main part; do; work; fight; strike; capable; able. 干 (gān) <old> shield; <formal> offend; have to do with; be concerned with; be implicated in; dry; dried food; empty; hollow; dry; taken into nominal kinship; (do sth.) for nothing; futilely; <dialect> cold-shoulder; leave sb. out in the cold. Edited by Hencke on 04 October 2006 at 5:22pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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