apparition Octoglot Senior Member United States Joined 6649 days ago 600 posts - 667 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Written), French, Arabic (Iraqi), Portuguese, German, Italian, Spanish Studies: Pashto
| Message 137 of 164 26 October 2007 at 10:46pm | IP Logged |
I just want to remind everyone that discussion of politics is not allowed on this forum, per the forum rules.
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Lugubert Heptaglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6866 days ago 186 posts - 235 votes Speaks: Swedish*, Danish, Norwegian, EnglishC2, German, Dutch, French Studies: Mandarin, Hindi
| Message 138 of 164 30 April 2008 at 11:12am | IP Logged |
rafaelrbp wrote:
frenkeld wrote:
So, we have several self-evident statements. What, then, is the punchline?
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Based on the title, I think his reasoning is more about the IQ needed to be a hyperpolyglot.
And I can't really tell which cognitive ability or feat is the most important for language learning, but surely the hyperpolyglots (+10 languages) have something that the others don't, or at least something much more developed. |
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Skipping some 17 pages, on which undoubtedly there will be similar thoughts, for neessary feats I advocate determination and curiosity. Not having to waste time on mundane thngs like getting a survival income helps, too. Most everybody learns a first language. I see no reason that most youngsters, if sufficiently exposed to more languages, should not be able to pick up a substantial number, already from a fairly humble IQ score.
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TheElvenLord Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6079 days ago 915 posts - 927 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Cornish, English* Studies: Spanish, French, German Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin
| Message 139 of 164 09 May 2008 at 11:21am | IP Logged |
I believe anyone can learn a language.
To tell the truth - I HATE things that say I cannot do this, I cannot do that.
Esentially, The first post suggests that i will not become a hyperglot, such as Mezzofanti and the likes.
Well, I have no idea, maybe I will, maybe I won't, but one thing is for sure, I HATE IT.
I cannot stand somethign that tells me - You can't learn this many language because you're an average human being, You can't learn do this because you're not special.
And everytime I come across somethign that tells me that, I vow to beat it.
If that tells me I will never become a Hyperglot, I will become one (hopefully).
TEL
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Cage Diglot aka a.ardaschira, Athena, Michael Thomas Senior Member United States Joined 6623 days ago 382 posts - 393 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Portuguese
| Message 140 of 164 19 June 2008 at 1:25pm | IP Logged |
To become a hyperglot requires an IQ of at least 85. This is one standard deviation below the mean putting one in the top 84% of the population. It takes more hard work and determination than anything else.
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Maximus Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6748 days ago 417 posts - 427 votes Studies: Spanish, Japanese, Thai
| Message 141 of 164 21 June 2008 at 4:31pm | IP Logged |
I really believe than any healthy individual could become an hyperglot with a lot of determination, dedication and a favourable setting. By that I mean many opportunities for immersion.
What good would an IQ of 165 be if the owner of that number did nothing and didn't want to do anything but watch daytime television and soap operas amongst other mind-numbing activities? Not a lot.
My two cents is that motivation is the key.
Yes I can!
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APerfectCircle7 Newbie United States Joined 6045 days ago 23 posts - 27 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German
| Message 142 of 164 22 June 2008 at 8:32pm | IP Logged |
sigiloso wrote:
IQ 70 and less (mental retardation): inability to master fully their native language
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LMAO!
Edited by APerfectCircle7 on 22 June 2008 at 8:33pm
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Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6010 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh
| Message 143 of 164 24 June 2008 at 4:37am | IP Logged |
Your IQ marks your ability to do IQ tests: nothing else.
As for <70 = mental retardation, nonsense.
The figure was invented by an educational psychologist in London. The council had a certain number of special education units with a limited number of places. This guy looked at the bell-curve distribution of IQs and found that the number of places matched the number of children scoring less than around 69 on IQ tests.
So the figure of 70 was chosen to allow the council to quickly fill the schools.
Mental problems and learning difficulties can't be determined by anything as crude as an IQ test, but most are plainly obvious in face-to-face assessments by competent psychologists and teachers.
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zerothinking Senior Member Australia Joined 6371 days ago 528 posts - 772 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 144 of 164 06 April 2009 at 5:23am | IP Logged |
i estimate that you need at least an IQ of around 70+. So if you're not severely
mentally retarded, you're fine,
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